Another Border Agent killed

[Ridge]

It is time to shoot on sight. anyone crossing the border will be shot until dead. there is no other way.

once things are under control and the bodies are piled up, the good people trying to get across can come through using the proper channels. The bad guys will probably find other ways across but if we come down with an iron fist on them and the mexican government we will eventually win.

And who will do all this casual killing?

[Teufelhund]

And who will do all this casual killing?

[sniper7]

And who will do all this casual killing?

BP, farmers who are allowed to protect their personal property, volunteers....you know ARFCOM is full of them. National guard, the .mil, police.

At this point, I think our country is in an economic war as well as a drug war.

sorry, but this is NOT the same as when the irish, english, chinese etc. all came over

the estimate of illegal immigrants in the US is between 10-20 million. 56% are from mexico and 22% from other latin american countires which use the mexican border as their point of entry.

8-10% of the babies born in the US every year are to at least 1 illegal immigrant parent.


we are being over run. bottom line.

[Ridge]

BP, farmers who are allowed to protect their personal property, volunteers....you know ARFCOM is full of them. National guard, the .mil, police.

At this point, I think our country is in an economic war as well as a drug war.

sorry, but this is NOT the same as when the irish, english, chinese etc. all came over

the estimate of illegal immigrants in the US is between 10-20 million. 56% are from mexico and 22% from other latin american countires which use the mexican border as their point of entry.

8-10% of the babies born in the US every year are to at least 1 illegal immigrant parent.


we are being over run. bottom line.

ARFCOM is full of 250lb operators that couldn't complete an IPSC course without stopping for a breather. Unless they can do the shooting from a remote terminal in their bathroom, they won't be getting it done.

And it is against the Constitution for the military to be armed and mobilized within our borders. And the police don't have the funding to respond to calls in the cities. How the hell are they going to watch thousands of square miles of featureless desert?

[Ronin13]

ARFCOM is full of 250lb operators that couldn't complete an IPSC course without stopping for a breather. Unless they can do the shooting from a remote terminal in their bathroom, they won't be getting it done.

And it is against the Constitution for the military to be armed and mobilized within our borders. And the police don't have the funding to respond to calls in the cities. How the hell are they going to watch thousands of square miles of featureless desert?

Nothing in the Constitution, you're thinking of the Posse Comitatus Act:

Its intent was to limit the powers of local governments and law enforcement agencies in using federal military personnel to enforce the laws of the land. Contrary to popular belief, the Act does not prohibit members of the Army from exercising state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order"; it simply requires that any authority to do so must exist with the United States Constitution or Act of Congress. In this way, most use of the Army and the Air Force at the direction of the President does not offend the statute, even though it may be problematic for political reasons.

The statute only addresses the US Army and, since 1956, the US Air Force. It does not refer to, and thus does not restrict or apply to, the National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor (in its federal capacity, the National Guard forms part of the Army or Air Force of the United States). The Navy and Marine Corps are prohibited by a Department of Defense directive (self-regulation), but not by the Act itself. Although it is a military force,the U.S. Coast Guard, which now operates under the Department of Homeland Security, is also not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act, primarily because the Coast Guard has both a maritime law enforcement mission and a federal regulatory agency mission.

[sniper7]

ARFCOM is full of 250lb operators that couldn't complete an IPSC course without stopping for a breather. Unless they can do the shooting from a remote terminal in their bathroom, they won't be getting it done.

And it is against the Constitution for the military to be armed and mobilized within our borders. And the police don't have the funding to respond to calls in the cities. How the hell are they going to watch thousands of square miles of featureless desert?

Still farmers who have their land, you know there a ton of people out there who would be willing to help "defend our borders" by sitting in an elevated stand and waiting for the "invaders" to cross the magic line. even the 250 lb high speed low drag operators.

with the money saved from entitlement and health care programs the police could easily get more funding while the deficit would be cut as well. New technology with sensors could be paid for to increase the amount of area covered. more border patrol agents could be hired. More American jobs created.

More openings for people who want to come over legally and job placements available to them.

Let me be very clear, I am all for people coming into our country to live the American Dream. I've met lots of them, I work with them, some of them I consider my friends. All I ask is that it is done through the process our elected officials and our government have established. Just as I am asked to pay my taxes, show my ID for pretty much everything, pay into the benefit programs that were designed to truly help people in a time of need...NOT as a way of life.