Romney and guns

[Sharpienads]

There seems to be a lot of conflicting reports, ambiguity, dishonesty, and sometimes ignorance when it comes to Romney and guns. Here are a couple of interesting reads on Romney when he was governor as it pertains to gun legislation.

http://www.goal.org/newspages/romney.html

http://www.nrapublications.org/index...nts-column-29/

Big take away: Romney did not sign an AWB when he was gov. The AWB was already law when he took over (and, unlike the federal AWB, it had no sunset clause). While some of these things may seem small to us, they were big steps in a state like MA.

I can't tell if these two articles are making excuses for Romney, or genuinely trying to explain what happened. But, what one thinks/does as governor almost a decade ago isn't necessarily a predictor of what one will do as president. Regardless, there's been enough "flip-flop-ish" talk from Romney to lead me to believe he's not as pro-2A as I would like.

Take it for what it's worth. Discuss civily.

[Teufelhund]

[Sharpienads]

Ok, so as stated above, he's been "flip-flop-ish". The video has clips from 4 years ago and 10 years ago. It doesn't show his response to alot of the questions. What's your point?

[Rust_shackleford]

Ok, so as stated above, he's been "flip-flop-ish". The video has clips from 4 years ago and 10 years ago. It doesn't show his response to alot of the questions. What's your point?

I guess I'll teach my kids to be politically expedient. No need to have character any more. Good luck with your next globalist puppet.

[sniper7]

I would have to say that his current stance is much better than Obamas.

What really matters is who is picking SCOTUS justices, how the house and senate elections fare, and hopefully no underhanded amendments are attached to anything important to both parties/the country

[Sharpienads]

I guess I'll teach my kids to be politically expedient. No need to have character any more. Good luck with your next globalist puppet.

Maybe you should teach them about federalism and how different levels of government have different powers/limitations.

To boil his 2A stance down to political expediency or lack of character is not taking all things into account, IMO. Is it a possibility that since 2002 his views have changed? And if so, are we going to beat him up over it, even if he has legitimately changed into something that we agree with? Or is it possible that what he views as acceptable for a state isn't acceptable at the federal level?

The point is to discuss the topic and be able to back up your opinions.

[ChunkyMonkey]

When it comes to the 2nd.. it boils down to this fact imho. Obama has been proven to bypass The US Congress by appointing Czars and issuing Executive Orders (In fact he issued 139 executive orders in lesser than 4 years). Our federal govt is designed to check and balance itself, if Obama gets his 2nd term, there is not such thing as check and balance!

[Rust_shackleford]

Maybe you should teach them about federalism and how different levels of government have different powers/limitations.

To boil his 2A stance down to political expediency or lack of character is not taking all things into account, IMO. Is it a possibility that since 2002 his views have changed? And if so, are we going to beat him up over it, even if he has legitimately changed into something that we agree with? Or is it possible that what he views as acceptable for a state isn't acceptable at the federal level?

The point is to discuss the topic and be able to back up your opinions.

Drink the koolaid enjoy the collapse. I dare you to watch this and report back. Your Romney is a globalist dirt bag. His views have changed? Views? How about convictions? He must not have any, just views. I want my children to have convictions in regards to their GOD GIVEN RIGHTS, not views.
You would tear a liberal a new ass for flip flopping half as much as this liberal with an R after his name.
Mitt is not going to save the Republic but continue to kill it.
This link is his immigration policy
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...ration-policy/
This link is Mitt's comedy hour!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_pgfWK3sxw

[Teufelhund]

Ok, so as stated above, he's been "flip-flop-ish". The video has clips from 4 years ago and 10 years ago. It doesn't show his response to alot of the questions. What's your point?

Just putting some info out there. Instead of listening to people accuse him or make excuses for him, listen to Romney declare his stance in his own words. Does it matter how long it took him to change his stance? His position was wildly different during the last elected office he held. You either believe in something and stand by it, or in the absence of such integrity you say whatever your advisers say you should to get elected. I agree with you, he's not as 2A-friendly as some believe.

[dwalker460]

Just putting some info out there. Instead of listening to people accuse him or make excuses for him, listen to Romney declare his stance in his own words. Does it matter how long it took him to change his stance? His position was wildly different during the last elected office he held. You either believe in something and stand by it, or in the absence of such integrity you say whatever your advisers say you should to get elected. I agree with you, he's not as 2A-friendly as some believe.

You know, I once new a man who did not believe in God and believed that marriage was a outdated bunch of BS, did not believe in corporate anything. We lost touch, he went his way, I went mine. Well time passed and when we met again years later he was married, is a mortgage broker/loan guy, has kids, and is a devout member of his local Church (my hometown Church actually).

But yanno, people dont change.