Great article about 3rd party voting.

[TS12000]

This thread and all the other 3rd party threads are the shining example of why the right/republican/conservative whatever you want to call it will never learn. Cannibalism. Look at what you think of each other and will say about people who you should be embracing, good god. You (republicans and libertarians here) should be embracing each other. Remember Reagans conservative stool?

For my fellow Libertarians, please heed my request, stop being so hard headed. Going all or nothing from the current leaning of the party all the way to our views is impossible and snaps the ties to our conservative brethren and makes us look like children. Baby steps. Work to get those types you like in local elections, and actually getting national candidates that more resemble your views step by step. Is it all fluffy rainbows? no but polarizing yourself isn't the answer.

[Sharpienads]

Not that it really adds anything to the conversation, but I believe we have had a third party president before.

[Rust_shackleford]

Honey Badger I'm not gay, but I love you!

[Sharpienads]

This thread and all the other 3rd party threads are the shining example of why the right/republican/conservative whatever you want to call it will never learn. Cannibalism. Look at what you think of each other and will say about people who you should be embracing, good god. You (republicans and libertarians here) should be embracing each other. Remember Reagans conservative stool?

For my fellow Libertarians, please heed my request, stop being so hard headed. Going all or nothing from the current leaning of the party all the way to our views is impossible and snaps the ties to our conservative brethren and makes us look like children. Baby steps. Work to get those types you like in local elections, and actually getting national candidates that more resemble your views step by step. Is it all fluffy rainbows? no but polarizing yourself isn't the answer.

One of the most logical things I've read today.

[Rooskibar03]

I think I am just going to vote for Obama. The sooner this country hits bottom the sooner we can start rebuilding.

No offense as we aren't friends and I don't know anything about you other then most of the guys here are really good people and we share a lot in common, BUT.

that is the stupidest fricken thing I hear people say. Guess what, there won't be anything left to rebuild. This nation will be changed for the worse. We will likely see a revolution of sorts, and as much as we all like think we're prepared, none of us should want to see our nation torn apart in that way.

If Obama gets another term and we loose the house or senate hang on it is not going to end well. The bottom will rise up, people will scream for someone to fix things, and the top will clamp down and we are done.

[HoneyBadger]

This thread and all the other 3rd party threads are the shining example of why the right/republican/conservative whatever you want to call it will never learn. Cannibalism. Look at what you think of each other and will say about people who you should be embracing, good god. You (republicans and libertarians here) should be embracing each other. Remember Reagans conservative stool?

For my fellow Libertarians, please heed my request, stop being so hard headed. Going all or nothing from the current leaning of the party all the way to our views is impossible and snaps the ties to our conservative brethren and makes us look like children. Baby steps. Work to get those types you like in local elections, and actually getting national candidates that more resemble your views step by step. Is it all fluffy rainbows? no but polarizing yourself isn't the answer.

Well put. You are completely right, but sometimes... SOMEONE IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET!!!!

Honey Badger I'm not gay, but I love you!

Also well put.

[Jer]

This thread and all the other 3rd party threads are the shining example of why the right/republican/conservative whatever you want to call it will never learn. Cannibalism. Look at what you think of each other and will say about people who you should be embracing, good god. You (republicans and libertarians here) should be embracing each other. Remember Reagans conservative stool?

For my fellow Libertarians, please heed my request, stop being so hard headed. Going all or nothing from the current leaning of the party all the way to our views is impossible and snaps the ties to our conservative brethren and makes us look like children. Baby steps. Work to get those types you like in local elections, and actually getting national candidates that more resemble your views step by step. Is it all fluffy rainbows? no but polarizing yourself isn't the answer.

In a perfect world this is all great ideas. In the real world it's just not working. In a perfect world RP would be on the ballot as he rightfully deserves. In a perfect world Republicans wouldn't see all 3rd party candidates as loons and crazies since that's what the media told them to think and would take the time to get to actually know them and become amazed by how much they actually agree with. In a perfect world people would actually research what their candidate has DONE IN THE PAST instead of what the media says about them or what they say themselves. In a perfect world people would vote for the candidate they believed was the right man for the job and shit can this 'lesser of two evils' bullshit. In a perfect world people wouldn't make up shit on the internet or wherever anyone will listen about 3rd party candidates to make others think they're crazy since most people don't think for themselves but that doesn't mean their vote counts any less.

That's not the world we live in unfortunately and all the people with better ideas just sit idly by on the sidelines hoping someone will notice them while they watch the train careen out of control.

[dwalker460]

Your right, Perot did not withdraw in 1996, he just only recieved 6% of the popular vote, and basically ignored the 2000 election. My bad.

I do exactly understand RP's methodology, and I disagree with a lot of his ideals. SOME things I do agree with him on- like an elimination or downsizing and repurposing of the FCC and similar agencies which we no longer actually need- but his methodology is just wrong.
I personally think RP would make a great advisor or counsel, but I really dont think he can actually get anything done as a President.
Hey I had forgotten about the Fed Audit bill! So I had to go look it up http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1702879.html
Yeap he got that done, with 270 co-sponsors. Only One Republican voted against it. Honestly with the current admin in the Fed I dont see how this bill could have failed. No one trusts them and their "QE" measures.

Doing nothing is a death trap. Do nothing and the debt grows and grows, unemployeement gets extended again and again, welfare is uncontrolled and Obamacare kills small and meduim business costing more and more jobs. Doing nothing does not coast us off the cliff, it launches us over it with no hope of a parachute.

I remember these kinds of responses back when Obaloney was giving his hope and change, give me a chance, give new a chance, bullshit speeches and all the heads full of mush were eating that shit up, not the same as the old guys, something different. Yeah he was different alright. Those voters said the same thing, whats it hurt, he cant do more damage than is already done, blah blah blah. TRILLIONS in debt within days of him taking office was the first clue they were all wrong. And your wrong too.

Also, before I go, I actually applaud RP for running as a Republican and working from within to change policy, I just do not agree that he can get what he says he can get done done.

And until last night, I was fairly lukewarm on Mittens. I liked him as a business guy and thought he was probably the guy for the job, but was unsure he had the nuts to win. Kinda considered him a candy ass. That changed last night during the debate. He was engaged and returning umm uhh vague answers with accurate, directed fire, using facts to combat rhetoric and laying out in concise terms and langauge how he plans to get things done as President.
Yeah yeah, he is not as Conservative as I am, but thats OK, he is Conservative enough. He does not believe everything I believe, and thats OK too because I dont really care if he is a Mormon. I have had Mormon employees and those are some hardworking honest people who are taught respect and to be a good citizen from birth. I respect that, even though as a Southern Baptist from Tennessee I am fundamentally opposed to his religion. Its all good at least he believes in something, and after all, this country was founded on the principles of Freedom of Religion.
Again, I dont believe in or support everything the man says, but I am hiring him to do a job, and I believe he can do the job. I probably would not even mind him as a neighbor.

[Teufelhund]

This thread and all the other 3rd party threads are the shining example of why the right/republican/conservative whatever you want to call it will never learn. Cannibalism. Look at what you think of each other and will say about people who you should be embracing, good god. You (republicans and libertarians here) should be embracing each other. Remember Reagans conservative stool?

For my fellow Libertarians, please heed my request, stop being so hard headed. Going all or nothing from the current leaning of the party all the way to our views is impossible and snaps the ties to our conservative brethren and makes us look like children. Baby steps. Work to get those types you like in local elections, and actually getting national candidates that more resemble your views step by step. Is it all fluffy rainbows? no but polarizing yourself isn't the answer.

Well said. The most retarded part is most of the self-proclaimed conservatives are libertarian and just don't realize it. Take a look at the definitions some folks are throwing out in one of the other recent threads. They seem to know what they want, but are too scared or stubborn to realize they're voting for something else. I'm tired of arguing with them about it. I need to remember I can lead a person to a solution, but I can't make him think.

[Rust_shackleford]

Well said. The most retarded part is most of the self-proclaimed conservatives are libertarian and just don't realize it. Take a look at the definitions some folks are throwing out in one of the other recent threads. They seem to know what they want, but are too scared or stubborn to realize they're voting for something else. I'm tired of arguing with them about it. I need to remember I can lead a person to a solution, but I can't make him think.

Much love brother hope you make it after the dollar dies