Official Presidential Debate thread. bitch, moan, and discuss here.

[dwalker460]

NO SUCH ANIMAL! BUDGET IS FUCKED DEBT IS FUCKED GET READY

A balanced budget can be done, has been done, its just the current admin doesnt give a rats ass about balancing anything, because theys teh guberment and can do as they damn well please as long as they continue to dole out to the "needy".

Deficit reduction is going to be the real issue, and thats a lot harder to accomplish. It can be done, and done in such a way that the country doesnt implode, but the welfare state will end, and a lot of government backed programs will end, and unemployment for many would end, none of which IMHO is not a bad thing. The current president doesnt have the balls to do it, but I think Mittens does. He is a business man who will take a look at a program like welfare and cut the shit out of it until its lean and mean and might actually work, or dropped altogether. Still, it will take a LOT to get the deficit reduced, probably 10-12 years of solid policy and hard damned work by the 20% of this country that does not work today, but it is possible.

Now likely? I dont know. A President is a leader, but Congress still has to be on board and that will be an issue. My guess is Mittens will get about 1/2 of what he wants accomplished done, and we can only pray that the following President continues the work, because even if somehow Mittens gets elected for two terms, and the country is on its way to a decent recovery, it will take a Bill Clinton or BHO type a mere single term to undo most of it.

For those who doubt that recovery can happen- Reagan! Reagan came in after Carter completely fucked this entire country. Farms were being sold on a daily basis, farms that had been in families for generations, farmers who were told BY THE PRESIDENT to grow, take out loans, buy equipment and work hard, we were going to sell the produce to Russia, China, etc. and the farmers would make out OK. But then the lying ass sonofabitch boycotted the export of American food- meaning that all that food, all those crops, wasted. Farmers bankrupt on a scale that has never been seen before and hopefully will never be seen again. There were dozens of ribbons in the county square, one for each farm the banks foreclosed on. The American Farmer nearly disappeared, and it affected the entire economy.
Reagan came in and cleaned that shit up, and we recovered. Get the right man in there and shit will happen, Mittens is looking more and more like the man for the job. Yeah, I get that hes not as conservative as I am, but he can get the damned job done, and thats what we are hiring the guy for.

[BPTactical]

Good write Dwalker460.
The average American has a very short memory.
Like it was Clinton that started the downward spiral of the housing market and BHO always insists it was Bush policies.

But one thing that does bug me a touch: I get the concept of neither candidate meeting all of our ideals.
But I think we need to consider the survival of a nation first and foremost.
That is a little more important this time around than "ideals".
Let's get the country at least diverted from the cliff, then worry about the finite details.
Defeat of BHO is job one.
The rest we can work with.

[Ronin13]

Romney came out swinging... I think the dead set against him crowd will still say Obama did good- I think they were maybe too high to comprehend what was going on, or they just flat out didn't watch. Some girl told my brother that she can't look at Romney without getting upset and angry. Romney just laid the smackdown, I haven't seen a look like the one on Obama's face since I saw a child get scolded by a disappointed parent at WalMart! DAYUM! Go Mitt!

The left did come out in droves last night on FB, they were saying Mitt was "mean" and "rude." Boofuckinhoo... Politics isn't a kids game, you need a tough leader otherwise we get pushed around, like with Libya.

But this just proves too many people are fucking high!


ETA: The lib-bitch in our office said that she can't stand Mitt, and that was really about the extent. I told her, "If Obama had been on his A game and clearly won last night, I would be humble enough to admit it. But it was blatantly obvious Mitt controlled, and dominated that debate..." (You'd have to be completely out of your mind to think Romney didn't just annihilate Oblahblah) I'm disappointed that people still back the Retard In Chief after last night- just proves Liberals are fucking dumb!