Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
Oh yes we do understand this. Some people just do not want that hassle, especially if there are employees involved.



What happened is the lack of any return for loyalty. Being on the lookout for another job that pays better, is closer, is better in some way is smart. In the same way it is smart for the employer to think through 'well I can hire 3 chinesewho will do a better job and be grateful for the opportunity for the cost of 1 engineer here' and poof there goes your job.

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No return for loyalty? You get a paycheck when its time to get paid right? Theres your return. You honored your agreement and the employer honored his. Now if for some reason everytime your employer hears about you its that your supervisor saw you on jobs.com.net.tv, or that you had three or four opportunities to pitch in a little extra time, maybe work on something at home or come in on a Saturday, and you didnt and it cost the company time and money, or that owner observes you being consistently (I say consistently because everyone has off days) moody or unhappy and you do and say nothing to explain or improve, then obviously no bonus for you.

HOWEVER, most employers do have bonus plans and every employer I know of would welcome and support actual bonus plan to reward employees for putting in extra effort. What NONE will support is a bonus plan for just doing your damned job. And why should they?

EDIT- My wife is considering several job opportunities in Hong Kong, where she can make a fair amount more money than she does here. However, a TYPICAL workday over there for a manager or even junior executive is 12 to 14 hours. They get work done. She has worked over there before with a previous employer and while the pace is to her I think exciting for the first week, by the second week she was not thrilled about it. However thats just normal doing business. AND these are the executives, you know, the "fat bastards" cruising around in thier limos and partying all night.

You obviously have no clue- the executives and owners NEVER STOP WORKING. Yeah they might be at home, but they are still working on this project or that proposal or setting up this meeting. I leave my shop and spend another three hours usually on the computer doing billing, research, etc. It never ends. There is no overtime, there may not even be an office party at the end of a long project, but its work and it has to get done for the company to succeed. Silly I know, to work that hard to ensure the employees have jobs.
An hourly employee on the other hand finishes their 8 hour shift with an hour lunch and two GOVERNMENT MANDATED 30 minute breaks, clocks out, and goes home to sit on thier couch and complain about how bad they have it because they have to work 8 hours a day for shitty pay for those fat bastards living it up with all their money.

Who, exactly, needs a reality check?