Official Vice Presidential Debate thread!

[sniper7]

Ryan talking about Reforming SS for age 54 and below. not to hurt the people in retirement, early retirement or the people getting benefits now.

[roberth]

Biden talking how great Obama did by saving a million jobs by bailing out the auto industry while Romeny would have let them fail.

The thing is...the auto industry would not have failed. Someone would have filled in, new cars would still be made, downsizing would be done and they would come back once people started buying again.

Exactly right, and if Bush had let those banks fail in 07-08 and not started the hugely wasteful TARP program then solvent banks would have purchased the assets and we'd be past the mess that we are still in now.

Businesses need a natural selection cycle just like plants and animals, the government interferes in the natural business cycle and it hurts everyone in the long run.

[sniper7]

Ryan saying there is a board of 15 people to be appointed, the Board will basically have to make cuts which will ultimately cut benefits even to current people on medicare and SS

[sniper7]

Biden threw out a jab about Sarah Palin talking about the death panel!

[sniper7]

Biden says they will not privatize SS.

[roberth]

Biden threw out a jab about Sarah Palin talking about the death panel!

So Biden is fighting the ghost of Sarah Palin (straw man), that is because he cannot adequately argue against the points that Ryan is making.

[sniper7]

Ryan saying Obama used medicare as a piggy bank for Obamacare.

nice jab by Ryan

[Sharpienads]

Man, Joe is a jerk.

[sniper7]

LOL Ryan just said Biden is under a lot of duress trying to make up for lost ground.


I'm not really thinking anyone is winning here

[roberth]

Biden says they will not privatize SS.

I don't want SS privatized, I want it suspended and then eliminated. Give my my 8% and I'll decide how to invest it.