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    We have a man in office whose signature piece of legislation is a quasi socilization of the healthcare system. Running against him is a man who wants to repeal that legislation....and institute his own "beyter " quasi socialist healthcare system. Does everyone not notice the hypocrisy?

    Presidents do not create jobs with the exception to white house staff. Job creation is not the job of a democratic republican government. That is a job of communist governments. Our governments job is to create a stable and safe environment for businesses to spawn and prosper. Dumping money into a system to spur onomic activity actually destabilizes the value of the currency, which is a cornerstone of a stablend safe environment. The alternative R plan which will never pass because of the Ds) is to. balance the budget by 2040. Thats another 27 years accumulating debt of more than 1 trillion a year (which will balloon as our government keeps creating money. .this t rain needs to stop...not "slow down slowly", before the currency has to be debased so that our debt can be "paid". The loser is us, regardless of party elected. Faster with the D party, but its probably better for it to happen while im in my 30s than in my 50's. I might have a chance to reacquire some savings.

    The way i see it, this "most important election ever" has been relegated to "least t important election ever by the choices presented. Probably the most important election ever was over 100 years ago, and the trickle down has led us here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodburbon View Post
    We have a man in office whose signature piece of legislation is a quasi socilization of the healthcare system. Running against him is a man who wants to repeal that legislation....and institute his own "beyter " quasi socialist healthcare system. Does everyone not notice the hypocrisy?

    Presidents do not create jobs with the exception to white house staff. Job creation is not the job of a democratic republican government. That is a job of communist governments. Our governments job is to create a stable and safe environment for businesses to spawn and prosper. Dumping money into a system to spur onomic activity actually destabilizes the value of the currency, which is a cornerstone of a stablend safe environment. The alternative R plan which will never pass because of the Ds) is to. balance the budget by 2040. Thats another 27 years accumulating debt of more than 1 trillion a year (which will balloon as our government keeps creating money. .this t rain needs to stop...not "slow down slowly", before the currency has to be debased so that our debt can be "paid". The loser is us, regardless of party elected. Faster with the D party, but its probably better for it to happen while im in my 30s than in my 50's. I might have a chance to reacquire some savings.

    The way i see it, this "most important election ever" has been relegated to "least t important election ever by the choices presented. Probably the most important election ever was over 100 years ago, and the trickle down has led us here.
    Sources on these?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    Sources on these?
    Sources?

    Um let's see.

    Romney : " I will repeal and replace Obamacare" re: just about every stump speech I've seen televised. Here's one from the convention

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tePDipdNRk8

    Is healthcare the business of government? No. So why repeal and "replace"? This makes no sense. There is already a safety network called medicare/medicaid, that is ballooning beyond anyone's imagination due to the proliferation of a lack of personal responsibility in our society.

    Furthermore in that little clip he says he's going to "protect the sanctity of marriage". What does that mean? Ban gay marriage at a federal level? The government is now in the business of telling people who they can legally love and spend the rest of their lives with? Didn't see that power granted to the Federal Government in the Constitution when I read it.



    Ryan's budget balancing act?


    Look anywhere. A quick search resulted this:


    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...0812-ryan.html

    Though that is largely irrelevant, since the democrats have voiced that they wouldn't allow something so "radical" to pass. The actual date of a "balanced budget" will much likely not occur before a debasing of the currency. Vote for Romney though, because a vote for anyone else could allow Obama to win and it would destroy this country.

    The country is already beyond saving when half of us demand that the budget not even be balanced, in less than 50 years. That's over 60 years straight of deficit spending, at an exponentially accelerating pace as the interest service on that debt swells. It is unsustainable and will come crashing down before the asshats in Washington can ever come together to rein in our (yes it's OUR) spending. They can't even pass a single year's budget. So ladies and gentlemen this is the LEAST important election ever. At least vote for freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    The problem with this. The state .gov is so glued to the .fed teat as is every entitlement mouth it will never release it's teeth off it.

    Personally I do not care who YOU VOTE FOR.
    I am unable to allow (hoping my vote counts) the last 4 years to continue another 4.
    SCOTUS appointments, 1 possibly 2 will set back gun ownership. It will open the flood gates more then they are now with ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS
    It will allow the .gov to release ALL POLITICAL PRISONERS currently held in military detainment. They will also allow civilian trials for TERRORIST. Call them what you want, hide your head in the sand or live in DENIAL. They are TERRORIST, who's goal is to bring this country to it's knee. Where it will be that much easier to remove it's head.
    Don't believe it, look at what the DOJ wanted to do regarding a civil trial in of all places NYC, for a terrorist.
    Forget about the appeasement that has happened to date. 4 more years, FUCK might as well get ready to rock now.
    A citizen of the United States is entitled to their day in court and don't you ever forget it! The pendulum can swing even further than it already has and YOU can be labeled as a 'TERRORIST' or a 'POLITICAL PRISONER' depending on who is in charge of the labeling. I would much rather see those US citizens with foreign interests in mind get their day in court than I would US citizens with their countries best interests in mind NOT get theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhood001 View Post
    A citizen of the United States is entitled to their day in court and don't you ever forget it! The pendulum can swing even further than it already has and YOU can be labeled as a 'TERRORIST' or a 'POLITICAL PRISONER' depending on who is in charge of the labeling. I would much rather see those US citizens with foreign interests in mind get their day in court than I would US citizens with their countries best interests in mind NOT get theirs.

    Non-US citizens being accused of crimes in the US can burn. Let our military sort them out.
    This frightens me to death! I'm entitled to a fair and speedy trial by the Constitution, however, if I'm labeled a terrorist (I'm a veteran after all)- all bets are off... So you are right with the labeling.
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    Rome is burning No saving the U.S. as long as you have a Central Bank

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    Personally I am for doing away with all party's, except the ones with beer of course. You are elected by the people to serve the people that elected you not the party that you represent. The congressional voting of party lines instead of voting for the people that elected you in the state you represent is torro poopoo. This is how we got obama care among other atrocities. Just my opinion playing the advocate. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhood001 View Post
    A citizen of the United States is entitled to their day in court and don't you ever forget it! The pendulum can swing even further than it already has and YOU can be labeled as a 'TERRORIST' or a 'POLITICAL PRISONER' depending on who is in charge of the labeling. I would much rather see those US citizens with foreign interests in mind get their day in court than I would US citizens with their countries best interests in mind NOT get theirs.

    Non-US citizens being accused of crimes in the US can burn. Let our military sort them out.

    Reread my post then comment.
    Citizen or not, plot to bomb anywhere in America, it's embassies, or military installations and a bullet will suffice. They didn't get there by only selling hot dogs. Give any of the islamist a day in civilian court and the system becomes a mockery of justice.
    How does their justice system work mmmmmmmmmmmm?
    Oh yeah beheading on the web, stoning to death, shooting children because they do not follow sharia law.
    Obviously we disagree and neither one of us will be dragged from our homes and executed for it.

    It will allow the .gov to release ALL POLITICAL PRISONERS currently held in military detainment. They will also allow civilian trials for TERRORIST. Call them what you want, hide your head in the sand or live in DENIAL. They are TERRORIST, who's goal is to bring this country to it's knee. Where it will be that much easier to remove it's head.
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    "America is at that awkward stage: It's too late to work within the system, and too early to shoot the bastards."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    Yeah, I would get behind that.

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