Comifornia gun question???

[Atrain1]

I am looking for a Taurus TCP for my ex in California. She has had some shady people follow her around, and I want her to be able to protect my Daughter. I have read that the TCP .380 is illegal to have in California. I do not see why it would. Can someone please explain? And also how would she go about getting a permit to carry? When I lived there you had to have a legit reason to have a permit (attempts on your life and stalkers ect) I know this place sucks and she should move, but that is not an option right now. I told her to get a Gunbroker account, and that I would try to find someone who would ship to her. I have looked on GB and they are saying the TCP .380 cannot be shipped to Comifornia. I know Taurus is frowned apon by some people here, but I like them and it is in her price range. I would not mind a Kel-tec or Ruger either. Thanks for your help.

[wctriumph]

If she wants a gun she can go to any gun shop and purchase a legal gun as long as she can pass a background check. All private sales must also go through a gun shop w/ background check. There will be a 10 day waiting period on all sales I believe.

As far as getting a permit to carry, unless she lives in Kern County and is white, or knows someone, forget it, ain't gonna happen my friend.

None of my business but if she lives and hangs out with shady people, you may want to try and get your daughter back with you.

[clublights]

Doesn't Cali have a " list of approved pistols" ?

[clublights]

Yup they do


http://certguns.doj.ca.gov

[SideShow Bob]

I'm guessing here, but I imagine that the reason it is not on the CA. Approved list, is that it is not a model that will not fire when the magazine is removed.
CA. Has some strange requirements, and some manufactures would rather not re-engineer their firearms just to be able to sell in that state.

[Atrain1]

If she wants a gun she can go to any gun shop and purchase a legal gun as long as she can pass a background check. All private sales must also go through a gun shop w/ background check. There will be a 10 day waiting period on all sales I believe.

As far as getting a permit to carry, unless she lives in Kern County and is white, or knows someone, forget it, ain't gonna happen my friend.

None of my business but if she lives and hangs out with shady people, you may want to try and get your daughter back with you.

It is not the people she is hanging out with, it is the town she lives in (VALLEJO) and it is really bad there right now. She is a really good mom and is not what I am worried about. Today she went to a bad part of town and had some dude follow her to 3 different stores.

[Fromk]

Approved list, is that it is not a model that will not fire when the magazine is removed.

That's not the case. There are plenty of pistols on the list that are capable of firing without a magazine. To get on the list a manufacturer has to submit a certain number of pistols for testing. Every variation has to be done separatly and not many manufacturers are willing to send that many guns. A famous case is that you can only get a .44 desert eagle in black because the different finishes make it a different gun for some reason. There are also restrictions on overall dimensions in some areas which was originally done to make saturday night specials illegal. California...hilarious!

Regarding the CCW...pretty much just Kern and maybe a couple other mid-state counties. They are also only valid in the county it is issued for so there's no traveling around with it. Last time I checked the number of ccw's in LA county numbered in the twenties. Before that it was the thirties so it's going down. That should give you an idea of what's going on out there.

If you want to make sure she gets a gun then the easiest way is for her to go to a local shop and buy one. To get a gun transfered she has to do a background check and wait ten days anyway. At least that way it has to be on the list so no worries there.

Of course she won't be able to legally carry it around in a state where it would do much good in a pinch. That's just the way it is. Take it or leave it.

[UncleDave]

All handguns have to pass a drop test, which some manufacturers do not want to pay for, and have to have a magazine safety read as gun cannot fire with mag removed. Your ex will have to potters a basic handgun safety test and the DROS and 10 day wait. For a CCW, depends on the county most forget about it. What county is she in?

[sniper7]

this thread shows how limited your rights really are in CA. makes me appreciate our laws here

[UncleDave]

Ok she is in Solano County. I grew up there. Vallejo is terrible, think Mad Max. No way she is getting a permit there. The good news is as long as the weapon is legal most cops don't care of you carry and it is a class b misdemeanor. So in Vallejo I used to carry permit or no.