Comifornia gun question???

[KestrelBike]

I honestly think a revolver is a good option for people that may not keep up their training but there are some downsides. I'll address what I took as your main concern about having kids in the house. I firmly believe that until they know how to safely handle it and what the consequences of taking that lightly are, they should have NO access to it and maybe not know it's there. It should be kept locked up in a place they can't get to it. Tethering a little gun vault on a top closet shelf is one example. This goes with any gun, though.

As far as other aspects of a revolver go there are many advantages and disadvantages ranging from ease of use to limited capacity and a double action pull that can make a shooter dangerously innacurate. She needs to figure that stuff out on her own by seriously trying a few things. Not just taking a few flinching shots and gingerly holding a couple guns at a counter. A good class should square her away on that. I kinda wish she was in the LA area so I could recommend my old range and the guy that did the basic pistol training there.

The other option is that she doesn't get a gun. If there are any doubts that she would not learn to use it properly it can be way more of a danger to have around. If she was closer and you could responsibly help out and see that it's getting done that would be one thing but you're here in another state. You have to use your own judgement there. I wouldn't dream of making the final call about your situation. It's a tough one.

Isn't California just lovely, that it works solely to create problems for the law abiding trying to protect itself from the criminals it bleeds its heart out for?

One of many reasons to leave.

[Atrain1]

I honestly think a revolver is a good option for people that may not keep up their training but there are some downsides. I'll address what I took as your main concern about having kids in the house. I firmly believe that until they know how to safely handle it and what the consequences of taking that lightly are, they should have NO access to it and maybe not know it's there. It should be kept locked up in a place they can't get to it. Tethering a little gun vault on a top closet shelf is one example. This goes with any gun, though.

As far as other aspects of a revolver go there are many advantages and disadvantages ranging from ease of use to limited capacity and a double action pull that can make a shooter dangerously innacurate. She needs to figure that stuff out on her own by seriously trying a few things. Not just taking a few flinching shots and gingerly holding a couple guns at a counter. A good class should square her away on that. I kinda wish she was in the LA area so I could recommend my old range and the guy that did the basic pistol training there.

The other option is that she doesn't get a gun. If there are any doubts that she would not learn to use it properly it can be way more of a danger to have around. If she was closer and you could responsibly help out and see that it's getting done that would be one thing but you're here in another state. You have to use your own judgement there. I wouldn't dream of making the final call about your situation. It's a tough one.

I guess I did not see this post last night. In my house everything is locked up except for at night, I have a 1911 that is close to both me and my wife. As far as my children go I started my oldest when he was 2 and he does very well. He knows to check the gun prior to holding it, he knows to point it in a safe direction at all times with his finger outside of the trigger guard. He actually schooled a 37 year old friend of mine when my buddy had his finger on the trigger, it was really impressive for me rather embarrassing for him. Also when that guy shot himself in the leg on YouTube my boy told me exactly what he did wrong. Me and my wife are both very responsible when it comes to this cause you only get one chance to do it wrong. I have caught crap on here in the past when I said that I ask my friends the CC to take the round out of the pipe at my house. I have a bunch of reasons for this and all of my friends have respect for me and my wishes. Don't take this the wrong way I believe in carrying and defending yourself, I am just very protective of my kids especially when it comes to guns.

[Fromk]

I'm not doubting you at all but this thread is about someone else's house. Someone who currently has no experience. Who is very far away. Where your daughter lives.

[hobowh]

don't buy the safe here either, one of the guys I work with (based in CA) said he has to have a CA approved safe to store his guns in. Though that may only be because of his C&R it's better safe than sorry.

[Atrain1]

Isn't California just lovely, that it works solely to create problems for the law abiding trying to protect itself from the criminals it bleeds its heart out for?

One of many reasons to leave.

Oh I agree and have been telling her the same thing. It is getting to the point to were she is asking me to do right by our daughter if something happens to her, meaning to leave her with her family in California. Now I would not pull her out right away cause this is all she has known for 11 years, but I would eventually have her with me.

I'm not doubting you at all but this thread is about someone else's house. Someone who currently has no experience. Who is very far away. Where your daughter lives.

Just making sure it seemed like it was kind of directed towards me, sorry if I misunderstood. My belief is if you properly train kids and take their curiosity away you have less to worry about, which is what we did and how I was taught. Even know me and my wife keep everything locked up and ammo separated with the exception of the home defense gun. I have been told in the past that I am wrong and should never have kids around guns which is something I completely disagree with, so that is why I am probably quick to explain why. I have a friend that is trying to teach his kid the same thing, but is kind of starting late IMO and I will say why. He asked me to test his kid which I did. I handed him a blank .22 revolver I have and the first thing he did was pull the trigger, which led to my kid telling him he should not hold a gun (I agree). My daughter's mother does not share the same view I do on guns so she will not ever be around them, so I would imagine that this will be in a safe at all times. If she cannot get a permit she will not carry it in her car or any were but at home, unfortunately CA has crappy laws that gives criminals a great advantage over law abiding citizens. With this thread I am now questioning if my wife should carry a revolver instead of a semi auto? I can clear a jam/stovepipe ect pretty quick, she is a different story. She can shoot pretty good and loves her guns, but I am not sure how she would react under duress. She has a SCCY 9mm as that will be her truck gun once she has tried it out, it has had a good fluff and buff and hand cycles great.

[Atrain1]

don't buy the safe here either, one of the guys I work with (based in CA) said he has to have a CA approved safe to store his guns in. Though that may only be because of his C&R it's better safe than sorry.

Would it be like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wypFgcqHyvc

[Danimal]

There are a couple things here that are huge red flags and I think that you should reconsider. First you stated that your wife has no working knowledge or training with firearms. Second you stated that you are trying to "Talk her into it" and finally you have shown that both of you need to do a lot of research about the laws and the real implications of the decision for her to own a gun. I am not trying to be hostile here, but you are putting them in a bad position by trying to convince her to do something that she either is not comfortable with or does not want to do.

If you are still even remotely considering getting, or having her get a gun, stop. She needs to want it, and more importantly she needs to want the training first. I know that you have your daughters best interest in mind, but having her mother own a gun does not help that situation in the slightest. She needs to be trained to defend herself and your daughter using as many means as possible, a firearm being just one of them. Use her recent experience to motivate her to seek training and pay for that. It will help her realize and identify danger and stay away from it as opposed to preparing her to shoot her way out of it. Pay for her to get the training and she will find the means that suit her best, and that is the best that you can hope for. Effective use of pressure points and a less than lethal weapon (tazer or mace) is better than an uneducated or untrained person wielding any gun. Plus if she does seek firearm training she will be educated about the laws as they apply to her and will have a better idea about what to get than you do, unless you actively seek out all of the information regarding firearm ownership in her county.

[Great-Kazoo]

In CA it is either a trigger lock or a safe, not both. As far as the county in question I h
Grew up there and lived there for 30 years I have many friends and family still there, quite a few in law enforcement. While I would bee cautious about any advise taken over a internet discussion thread I do believe I have a good handle on the area and the local politics Jim.

Politics doesn't keep his X and or children safe. The law and knowing it does which is what in my 1st reply i suggest ,the CADOJ web site and a class. I too know multiple LE's in CA and like CO each of them is giving their interpretation / opinion about the law. Fortunately i did not live there, then again ny 30 years ago was different than it is today as is CA.

[hobowh]

Would it be like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wypFgcqHyvc

No it's the same safe you would get here but has a compliance sticker on it. So they can get their cut of the sale price.

[Atrain1]

There are a couple things here that are huge red flags and I think that you should reconsider. First you stated that your wife has no working knowledge or training with firearms. Second you stated that you are trying to "Talk her into it" and finally you have shown that both of you need to do a lot of research about the laws and the real implications of the decision for her to own a gun. I am not trying to be hostile here, but you are putting them in a bad position by trying to convince her to do something that she either is not comfortable with or does not want to do.

If you are still even remotely considering getting, or having her get a gun, stop. She needs to want it, and more importantly she needs to want the training first. I know that you have your daughters best interest in mind, but having her mother own a gun does not help that situation in the slightest. She needs to be trained to defend herself and your daughter using as many means as possible, a firearm being just one of them. Use her recent experience to motivate her to seek training and pay for that. It will help her realize and identify danger and stay away from it as opposed to preparing her to shoot her way out of it. Pay for her to get the training and she will find the means that suit her best, and that is the best that you can hope for. Effective use of pressure points and a less than lethal weapon (tazer or mace) is better than an uneducated or untrained person wielding any gun. Plus if she does seek firearm training she will be educated about the laws as they apply to her and will have a better idea about what to get than you do, unless you actively seek out all of the information regarding firearm ownership in her county.

My wife loves guns and has been around them all her life, this is my ex I am talking about. And I have told her that having a firearm without the proper training is or can be worse than not having one. The town she lives in is a very dangerous place so trying to stay away from bad things is really not an option. I want her to have proper training and be confident in using a gun to protect her and my daughter. As much as I would love to have my daughter live with me and be under mine and my wife's care (Really good mom) I would hate to look at my daughter everyday knowing she could not be with her real mom. So it is not just my kid I am worried about, as me and her are very good friends as well. One of the things she has told me was she wanted a knife to carry, do to being in the medical industry she knows were vital arteries and pressure points are. The reason I was not comfortable with that is you have to be up close and personal with a knife, which can be taken and used against her.