Comifornia gun question???

[Atrain1]

All handguns have to pass a drop test, which some manufacturers do not want to pay for, and have to have a magazine safety read as gun cannot fire with mag removed. Your ex will have to potters a basic handgun safety test and the DROS and 10 day wait. For a CCW, depends on the county most forget about it. What county is she in?

Solano county.

[Atrain1]

Wow you can have a FN 5.7 but not a Taurus TCP. And Cobra Patriot 45 and all the cheap saturday night specials. The gun list is stupid.

[Fromk]

There are two other things I didn't mention in my previous post.

First is that the Handgun Safety Certificate isn't that big of a deal. It costs $25, is good for 5 years, and any place that sells handguns is required to give the test. It just takes a few minutes for a few pretty easy questions and a quicker handling test. Turner's Outdoorsman is a suprisingly good resource for this stuff. http://www.turners.com/engage/video_study_guide.php is a video guide and http://www.turners.com/engage/faq.php#a is a general faq to California gun ownership. I applaud them for making things as easy and clear for California shooters.

Second, and most importantly, I really hope things work out for them and your daughter remains safe. Mostly that it happens without either of them ever needing a gun.

[spyder]

As stated, have her go to a gun shop there and get one, it's much easier. If you try to buy one here and have it shipped to her FFL there, the FFL here has to do a small load of shitty paper work to get it sent into Comifornia, it's not like most other states. All of the FFL's here in the Taint refuse to send anything there because of the paper work.

[asmo]

Your ex..

FAIL.

[spqrzilla]

The good news is as long as the weapon is legal most cops don't care of you carry and it is a class b misdemeanor. So in Vallejo I used to carry permit or no.

Not true the last time I checked. It is prosecutor discretion whether to prosecute as a felony or misdemeanor.

[Irving]

I am looking for a Taurus TCP for my ex in California. She has had some shady people follow her around, and I want her to be able to protect my Daughter.

Your ex..

FAIL.

Does that make it more clear for you?

[Atrain1]

Thanks for the your help guys. What about carrying it in her car? I know one of the biggest things would be piece of mind at home, so that alone would be worth 300.00 to her. I have heard really bad things about the Cobra Patriot 45 acp, and some good things. Jeff from Gunblast seems to like it, as far as I know he seems to know his stuff. I ask cause that is one of the only smaller 45's on the list of guns.

[Fromk]

The car is also a no go. The gun has to be in a locked container, unloaded, with no ammunition touching the gun, and out of reach of the driver. That's the simple breakdown of the law. "Locked" doesn't have to be much, though. My container was a regular, non-descript backpack with a little combination luggage lock and the ammo was in the outer pocket. There may be something about it only being lawful going to and from the range. Since I worked at one I that was almost always the case with me but I can't remember if that was an actual, obscure law or some stupid thing I heard some random idiot say. I have to look that up. Either way, once again the rules make it very hard to get to and use a gun in an emergency situation. It sucks. The people that wrote the laws had no grasp of the realities people face using firearms as a hobby, protection, or breaking the law.

Two more things for you to do. Go check out www.calguns.net which is the local forum for the state and a book called "How to Own a Gun and Stay Out of Jail" which has a homepage here http://www.gunlawpress.com/. Both of those are kept up to date with the latest legislation and all kinds of helpful info.

I don't know how experienced she is with shooting but I wouldn't recommend a small .45. It's been my experience that someone who can shoot their gun confidently is in much better shape than someone who can't. That means practice and most people won't do it (especially women) if it means using a punishing gun. These days a good hollowpoint will negate much of the 9 vs 40 vs 45 thing. Maybe a revolver she so she can get range time with 38 special and bump it to 357 magnum for home? Maybe a shotgun? You know her better than I do. Just my 2 cents.

[Atrain1]

The car is also a no go. The gun has to be in a locked container, unloaded, with no ammunition touching the gun, and out of reach of the driver. That's the simple breakdown of the law. "Locked" doesn't have to be much, though. My container was a regular, non-descript backpack with a little combination luggage lock and the ammo was in the outer pocket. There may be something about it only being lawful going to and from the range. Since I worked at one I that was almost always the case with me but I can't remember if that was an actual, obscure law or some stupid thing I heard some random idiot say. I have to look that up. Either way, once again the rules make it very hard to get to and use a gun in an emergency situation. It sucks. The people that wrote the laws had no grasp of the realities people face using firearms as a hobby, protection, or breaking the law.

I don't know how experienced she is with shooting but I wouldn't recommend a small .45. It's been my experience that someone who can shoot their gun confidently is in much better shape than someone who can't. That means practice and most people won't do it (especially women) if it means using a punishing gun. These days a good hollowpoint will negate much of the 9 vs 40 vs 45 thing. Maybe a revolver she so she can get range time with 38 special and bump it to 357 magnum for home? Maybe a shotgun? You know her better than I do. Just my 2 cents.

I was just thinking about the 2-3 inch barrel, expanding issues with smaller rounds. I figure if you have a 45 you do not need to worry about expanding issues. As far as gun experience she has none, I am still talking her into the idea of getting one. I explained to her that she needs training, cause without it the gun might end up being used against her. I am going to teach her what I can when I go out, after that I was planning on having her take a class. I am not aware if anything exists like that there do to their stupid laws. Seems like the criminals have more right in Comifornia than the people do. I am thinking that she would be okay with a bigger gun with me teaching her, but I guess I could be way off base.