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    Quote Originally Posted by DD977GM2 View Post
    This key. If its a fist fight, you kick thier ass with your fists and feet, then you
    did not escalate and should not be charged with anything or if you do, good chance the charges will be dropped in a court of law.
    A "shod foot" (shoes, boots) has been considered a "weapon" in many courts, and if you kick someone while they are down, resulting in substantial injury requiring hospitalization (fractures, broken teeth, etc), then you will probably get prosecuted and convicted if: the other guy was unarmed, you do not have significant injuries, and the attack did not occur in your home, place of business, or on your property. If you kick him while he is down and he walks away with nothing more than bruises, then you are correct that there is a good chances the charges may be dropped if he started it and there are witnesses or CCTV video of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    A "shod foot" (shoes, boots) has been considered a "weapon" in many courts, and if you kick someone while they are down, resulting in substantial injury requiring hospitalization (fractures, broken teeth, etc), then you will probably get prosecuted and convicted if: the other guy was unarmed, you do not have significant injuries, and the attack did not occur in your home, place of business, or on your property. If you kick him while he is down and he walks away with nothing more than bruises, then you are correct that there is a good chances the charges may be dropped if he started it and there are witnesses or CCTV video of that.
    If you kicked their ass and they are done attacking you, why would you kick them when they are down?

    The way I read the OP was if he kicked their ass and ceased hostilities, would he be arrested and charged.... well if you kicked their ass and didnt take a trashcan and huck it at them or kick them when they are down or curb them, you would be fine.

    The what ifs can go on all day. When I have kicked someone's ass, I didnt stick around and wait for them to get up and come at me with vengeance or with a weapon.
    When I have had my ass kicked, I didnt go after them for more of the abuse, I left. agian though YMMV.

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    One is allowed to use whatever force is necessary to end the threat of bodily injury. Beyond that, he's treading on very thin ice...
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    Quote Originally Posted by brokenscout View Post
    If someone punches someone first and the other person kicks their ass is it still self defense?Where is the line drawn?Asking for a friend
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    ATTORNEY, NOT the internet

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    If the attacker stops, you stop. If the attacker is down and you continue there is the possibility you may be charged with assault
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    Either way it's a losing battle. Cost me 15000.00 for a fight that I didn't start. Two witness said I started it. After court cost lawer cost and medical bills time off work not to mention the sleepless nights wondering what I would be charged with. I was found not guilty but had to pay his medical. Not worth it! Walk away and tell him to roll away.
    You don't want it to turn into a felony
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunecrazzy View Post
    Either way it's a losing battle. Cost me 15000.00 for a fight that I didn't start. Two witness said I started it. After court cost lawer cost and medical bills time off work not to mention the sleepless nights wondering what I would be charged with. I was found not guilty but had to pay his medical. Not worth it! Walk away and tell him to roll away.
    You don't want it to turn into a felony
    But sometimes you can't walk away.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by brokenscout View Post
    But sometimes you can't walk away.........
    I agree . I'm sure there are many that wish they did walk away.
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    each situation is different, best to defuse the situation, get away from the situation, and if unable, end the situation with the least amount of force necessary to protect you, your family, or the person as risk.
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    Wow, there is a lot of stuff to try to remember in a moments notice when your life is on the line in this thread.

    Bottom line: Dude or dudes come at me with the intent to do me harm I will draw and warn once before killing if I'm unable to remove myself from the situation safely. The law supports me in my defense. This idea that I need to fist fight them first is bullshit. The sooner idiot macho tards realize picking a fight can get you killed the sooner people like me don't have to worry about having to kill someone to enjoy life w/o fear of bodily harm.
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    My friend told me.Its best to walk away or take an ass kicking...Cost less..
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