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    If the "victim" is beyond a certain age, isn't he then considered an "at risk individual"? What IS that age??

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    Quote Originally Posted by DD977GM2 View Post
    This key. If its a fist fight, you kick thier ass with your fists and feet, then you
    did not escalate and should not be charged with anything or if you do, good chance the charges will be dropped in a court of law.
    A "shod foot" (shoes, boots) has been considered a "weapon" in many courts, and if you kick someone while they are down, resulting in substantial injury requiring hospitalization (fractures, broken teeth, etc), then you will probably get prosecuted and convicted if: the other guy was unarmed, you do not have significant injuries, and the attack did not occur in your home, place of business, or on your property. If you kick him while he is down and he walks away with nothing more than bruises, then you are correct that there is a good chances the charges may be dropped if he started it and there are witnesses or CCTV video of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBob View Post
    If the "victim" is beyond a certain age, isn't he then considered an "at risk individual"? What IS that age??
    At-risk adult = an adult 60+ years of age with permanent disability (unable to walk, see, hear, speak) As contained in Colo 18-6.5-103 (3) (A)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Well here's the real game changer- what if someone is aggravated, they want to kick your ass, and you are carrying? I would think the fear would be that if they are a better fighter than you, and they discover you have a firearm on your person- what next? What if they get into a position to take it from you and use it? That would be my fear... That's reason #1, when carrying, that I try to avoid or peacefully defuse a potential violent situation at all costs.
    If your carrying, flee. You 99.9999999% of the time have that option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    A "shod foot" (shoes, boots) has been considered a "weapon" in many courts, and if you kick someone while they are down, resulting in substantial injury requiring hospitalization (fractures, broken teeth, etc), then you will probably get prosecuted and convicted if: the other guy was unarmed, you do not have significant injuries, and the attack did not occur in your home, place of business, or on your property. If you kick him while he is down and he walks away with nothing more than bruises, then you are correct that there is a good chances the charges may be dropped if he started it and there are witnesses or CCTV video of that.
    If you kicked their ass and they are done attacking you, why would you kick them when they are down?

    The way I read the OP was if he kicked their ass and ceased hostilities, would he be arrested and charged.... well if you kicked their ass and didnt take a trashcan and huck it at them or kick them when they are down or curb them, you would be fine.

    The what ifs can go on all day. When I have kicked someone's ass, I didnt stick around and wait for them to get up and come at me with vengeance or with a weapon.
    When I have had my ass kicked, I didnt go after them for more of the abuse, I left. agian though YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokenscout View Post
    If someone punches someone first and the other person kicks their ass is it still self defense?Where is the line drawn?Asking for a friend
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    If the attacker stops, you stop. If the attacker is down and you continue there is the possibility you may be charged with assault
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBob View Post
    If the "victim" is beyond a certain age, isn't he then considered an "at risk individual"? What IS that age??
    You dont even have to be 60.....depending on your disabilities.......
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    I say if you kick the guy in the wheel chairs ass and he keeps coming then you got to do what you got to do. You be surprised how fast they can cover ground in one of those things. Plus no foot steps...just roll right up on ya quiet like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBob View Post
    If the "victim" is beyond a certain age, isn't he then considered an "at risk individual"? What IS that age??
    And that is dependent upon the age of the other party as well. Example: a 60 year old and a 65 year old get into it, neither is going to be charged with the enhancement of the 'at risk'.
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    Either way it's a losing battle. Cost me 15000.00 for a fight that I didn't start. Two witness said I started it. After court cost lawer cost and medical bills time off work not to mention the sleepless nights wondering what I would be charged with. I was found not guilty but had to pay his medical. Not worth it! Walk away and tell him to roll away.
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