Fight while carrying question...

[newracer]

IMO Ronin you should not carry.

[Monky]

IMO Ronin you should not carry.

What's worse is he wants to be a cop.

[Great-Kazoo]

IMO Ronin you should not carry.

In a backpack @ King Soopers. Remember that tasty morsel of a post, which R13 Was not the OP.

[Ronin13]

IMO Ronin you should not carry.

Molon Labe...

What's worse is he wants to be a cop.

I say this with all due respect... but you don't know me, you base your opinion on what I post here, but have you really ever taken the time to get to know me? I'll answer that for you, no. I really don't understand your hostile and unwelcome nature towards me... I guess you really don't like me, BFD, I don't care. I will say Jim and I have had our spats, and I realize that most of the time he is ribbing (the way he does it may be rough, but hey, thick skin needed around him). YOU on the other hand, you just never let up... I should just hit that ignore button... but sometimes you have valuable input in some of the discussions... I'll ask politely to please stop making false assumptions about me- your negativity is getting annoying.

To everyone else- situations dictate response... Not every situation you can just walk away. Without going into too much detail, this guy started an argument with me (subject doesn't matter), got in my face to where I had my back against a window, I asked him to get out of my face and that I didn't have time to have a pissing match with him. His two friends were on his right and moved to a position on my left flank. My defense mode came into play, and I asked him again to back off, I was done with the argument. That's when he grabbed me, I had no where to go, and I acted as trained. I knew from the get-go the guy was looking for a fight that evening (hindsight), my friends all were in agreement that it was a lose-lose situation and I handled it correctly.

Where things did get out of hand was when he confronted me at my car outside. I guess he wanted retribution for my reaction to his grabbing me. Again, I attempted to defuse the situation, he wasn't hearing it, and there was again no where to go. Should I have avoided the argument? Yes. But when someone makes a firm decision to have a problem with you, and they don't want to back down (verbally or physically, doesn't matter does it?) and they want to pursue the issue (in this case alcohol was involved- 1 drink, so leaving was not an option at that time) I ask how can you really be proactive in avoiding the situation? Lock myself in my car? Call 911? C'mon, let's be realistic here.

[ChunkyMonkey]

A responsible grown up should not put him/herself in that position in the first place. Take it as a lesson and move on.

I dont know how many times I apologized and moved on when someone pumped his chest over the silliest thing. Who give a fvck - when I am carrying, I am calmer more than ever.

[Goodburbon]

Molon Labe...



I say this with all due respect... but you don't know me, you base your opinion on what I post here, but have you really ever taken the time to get to know me? I'll answer that for you, no. I really don't understand your hostile and unwelcome nature towards me... I guess you really don't like me, BFD, I don't care. I will say Jim and I have had our spats, and I realize that most of the time he is ribbing (the way he does it may be rough, but hey, thick skin needed around him). YOU on the other hand, you just never let up... I should just hit that ignore button... but sometimes you have valuable input in some of the discussions... I'll ask politely to please stop making false assumptions about me- your negativity is getting annoying.

To everyone else- situations dictate response... Not every situation you can just walk away. Without going into too much detail, this guy started an argument with me (subject doesn't matter), got in my face to where I had my back against a window, I asked him to get out of my face and that I didn't have time to have a pissing match with him. His two friends were on his right and moved to a position on my left flank. My defense mode came into play, and I asked him again to back off, I was done with the argument. That's when he grabbed me, I had no where to go, and I acted as trained. I knew from the get-go the guy was looking for a fight that evening (hindsight), my friends all were in agreement that it was a lose-lose situation and I handled it correctly.

Where things did get out of hand was when he confronted me at my car outside. I guess he wanted retribution for my reaction to his grabbing me. Again, I attempted to defuse the situation, he wasn't hearing it, and there was again no where to go. Should I have avoided the argument? Yes. But when someone makes a firm decision to have a problem with you, and they don't want to back down (verbally or physically, doesn't matter does it?) and they want to pursue the issue (in this case alcohol was involved- 1 drink, so leaving was not an option at that time) I ask how can you really be proactive in avoiding the situation? Lock myself in my car? Call 911? C'mon, let's be realistic here.

When I was a Mental health tech we had a really Hot nurse that would work nights with me. One time a patient decided he had the hots for her. He waited until she was alone on the unit, walked up and physically blocked her into the nurses' station. No way out. He told her he was going to have his way with her. She said, "ok I've got to pee." and walked right past him. Crisis averted. Situation completely defused.

Your situation was avoidable with creativity.

[Great-Kazoo]

When I was a Mental health tech we had a really Hot nurse that would work nights with me. One time a patient decided he had the hots for her. He waited until she was alone on the unit, walked up and physically blocked her into the nurses' station. No way out. He told her he was going to have his way with her. She said, "ok I've got to pee." and walked right past him. Crisis averted. Situation completely defused.

Your situation was avoidable with creativity.

Redirection, diffuse and move on, or out of the way. If in a bar, they have these things called bouncers.
Anyone can be a man, a real man tries to avoid the situation in the first place.
Feel the need to measure dicks great, you're more of a man than i am, again move on or redirect.

[spyder]

Redirection, diffuse and move on, or out of the way. If in a bar, they have these things called bouncers.
Anyone can be a man, a real man tries to avoid the situation in the first place.
Feel the need to measure dicks great, you're more of a man than i am, again move on or redirect.

I would have to go with this....

I don't know what originally got you into that situation Ronin, but whatever the arguement was, you could have easily said "you're correct, my bad..." and left it at that. Is that something that you are going to want to say since it might make you look like a pussy/idiot to others? No, you won't want to say it, but who gives a crap about "others" in the grown up world man. Think back to what started the pissin match and think about where you could have eaten crow, and gotten out of the situation in the first place. I've learned to stay away from immature crowds, those were for my foolish "young" days, some day, you will reach that point also.

Now, to the point where they had you pinned... You should have tried walking to his left or right before the friends surrounded you. If he tried to forcibly restrain you while you were trying to get away, put him on the floor.

Like everyone has said, you should not have put yourself in that position to begin with. Something happened somewhere in that night's timeline that made him come to you, it was at that point that you should have diffused the situation and not let it go any further.

[newracer]

Molon Labe...

I am not going to take it from you, but that statement in this context just strengthens my opinion. By your own admission you have PTSD and problems with making correct decisions and staying out of trouble. You should be man enough to seriously consider not carrying.

[Ronin13]

I am not going to take it from you, but that statement in this context just strengthens my opinion. By your own admission you have PTSD and problems with making correct decisions and staying out of trouble. You should be man enough to seriously consider not carrying.

Wow... did I ever say I have problems making correct decisions and staying out of trouble? Nope... but hey, it was nice of you to try to put words in my mouth. I said I have PTSD and when a situation gets too far I no longer have the flight instinct, only fight- but not making "correct decisions." Funny, you sound EXACTLY like those asshat people on "Obama's team" who would think that returning combat veterans are potential terrorists. I had ONE (I bold the parts so maybe your very poor reading comprehension can absorb the info) instance that got out of hand, and for the most part was difficult to avoid or defuse. You should be man enough to not read things wrong and suggest from (again) ONE situation that I should lock away the most effective means of self protection and exercise of my 2nd Amendment right... Fuck you, your opinion is too similar to the Brady Bunch for my tastes.