So what actually happened during the last AWB

[dwalker460]

FFL's became hard to get, which was specifically designed to try and eliminate "tabletop" and garage sellers and gunsmiths.

High cap mags dried right up, just prior to the ban when it was widely thought that high cap weapons themselves would be banned there was a pretty big run on high cap pistols.

AR's went from $600 or so to over $1200 almost overnight. Military surplus parts kits were literally gone from inventory overnight

SKS/AK/MAK rifles were scooped up in large amounts, went from $89 for an SKS at a gun show to $200 or more, never came back down.

Other than that, my life was not affected much.

[roberth]

Wasn't there a provision for shotguns too.

An FFL couldn't sell an extended magazine and a pistol grip on a shotgun, you could have one but not the other.

I remember being quoted $1200 for a Benelli M1 with an extended magazine.

[jerrymrc]

Similar to previous bans...gun prices went up on "evil" features. The law of supply/demand. AUGs went up $1000. I remember FNC's going for $600 before the 86 ban, dealers couldn't give the crappy FN things away. Suddenly after the ban...prices went to $1200. Another ban in 94 and what do crappy FNCs go for? $3000. $3k for a gun with a 12lb trigger pull, no parts, no accessories, impossible to load a mag fast, and average accuracy. Yeah, but Pacino used it in "Heat" so it must be great.

That ban screwed the consumers/citizens big time. All pistols/rifles came with 10 rd mags. Some companies tried to get around it but others, like Ruger, did it even before it became law...thanks Bill. The lovely "thumb hole" rifle stock ruined all our dreams. They tossed them on AKs, AUGs, SKSs, ARs, FALs, etc. So, you paid full pop for the gun and then paid a fortune to get an illegal stock to make your rifle useable. Hi-cap Glock mags went from $15 bucks to $100. BetaC mags went from $150 to $500. No more sweet bayonet lugs on rifles, dangerous, and flash hiders were really forbidden. Parts counting. Your thumbhole FAL could be changed but you had to have the proper number of US parts. Would love to find the prick government employee to come up with that one and shove all those FAL floor plate mag parts up his unlubricated ass. He's probably from San Francisco and would like that.

Sorry, will stop my rant now but this AWB amazes me. Fucking libs. Douches.

When Obama gets elected again...and it will happen, the ban will be worse and there won't be an expiration date on it. Too many airy fairy libs and women really believe guns and "clips" are evil. They will welcome it, just like the English, the Aussies, etc.

I still have about 10 falcon floor plates. For a Metric there were enough US parts but I had to use them on the Izzy.

[Great-Kazoo]

Outside of the restrictions on magazines, firearms and evil features manufactred after 9/94
was this/
IT CREATED AN INGENIOUS Industry of parts and accessories that some how made their way on to the market.
IT also created many small start up companies that produced (OR contracted out) AR Lowers that were not named in the 94 crime bill.
While Colt, BM, Oly, ARmalite could not be sold in CA Other vendors who just started were and in some cases able to still sell AR lowers in CA, NY and other AWB states.

Thumbhole stocks allowed AK's to still be sold.
HOWEVER a lot of small start ups and other business at the time started to mfg (or again contract) 922 Compliant parts.
FSE for one

Tapco is still in business. Federal Arms has passed in to the sunset as did a few other companies.
Williams? a company who cranked out Al FN upper receivers, came and went, jerrymc has one and as i remember from the early FALFILES did some amazing things to it, only not in 308. Jerry remember LarryFN from the midwest That guy had a shit load of fn parts & acc. Same for that frog from Quebec?. I still have business cards of theirs.
Enterprise sold receivers and complete FN's so did DSA. Hell DSA was a 2 brothers operation out of Ill. Their mfg of us receivers and importation of Belgium, South African, and brazilian? FN parts kits had folks like me going crazy assembling (for fun and personal pleasure, NOT RESALE) FN's which you could not buy as they were originally sold here, but never the less build or buy from a few vendors.

A few of us remember the SA FN kits with the 1/2 ass SA cammo pattern paint jobs. You could buy a complete kit minus upper receiver and 922 comp parts for $150!
AK's ChiCom, Bulgarian, Hungarian, Polish all were allowed in but again THole stocks.

I could score 20rd Colt branded ar mags and off them for a "reasonable" profit.

The hand guns that were imported such as the HS200, Now the Springfield XD came with 10 rd mags. Smart, thinking guys like Pat of PM gun smithing / Jensens at that time looked at th e10 rd mags measured mag body dimensions and created from Beretta 92 mags 15 round mags that worked in the HS2K's. I was able to convert S&W 59 series 15 rd mags to work in my P99.

While it screwed the pooch for gun owners regarding flash hiders, more than 10 round mags, folding stocks it also Created a whole industry specifically to get around the ban, LEGALLY and within ATF guidelines.

When i dig it up i will post a few pictures from a Cobray catalog i have collecting dust. Think $30 is a high price to pay today for a magazine

[jerrymrc]

A few of us remember the SA FN kits with the 1/2 ass SA cammo pattern paint jobs. You could buy a complete kit minus upper receiver and 922 comp parts for $150!

The days of the $300 Fal. One could buy G-1 or Imbel kits for $89 each and if ya bought two ya got free shipping from Tapco.

Buddy made a hand picked kit right after I got a bum one back then. Look what $300 got ya in 2001.

[Great-Kazoo]

The days of the $300 Fal. One could buy G-1 or Imbel kits for $89 each and if ya bought two ya got free shipping from Tapco.

Buddy made a hand picked kit right after I got a bum one back then. Look what $300 got ya in 2001.

So what was that frenchies name, Marcel, Louis, George?? You might remember he ran around your neck of the woods.

We turned them down in to 18 & 16" bbl's.
I just remembered Springfield Armory imported a small lot of SAR's, Brazilian H&K Contract runs with the SA Rollmark.
I had 2 of those and one of the 4800's the brazilian FN in 223!. Yeppers restrictions aside you could do a lot with guns, if you put your mind to it. OR networked with everyone else on the web.
Every gun board except GT i am or was Jim

[jerrymrc]

So what was that frenchies name, Marcel, Louis, George?? You might remember he ran around your neck of the woods.

We turned them down in to 18 & 16" bbl's.
I just remembered Springfield Armory imported a small lot of SAR's, Brazilian H&K Contract runs with the SA Rollmark.
I had 2 of those and one of the 4800's the brazilian FN in 223!. Yeppers restrictions aside you could do a lot with guns, if you put your mind to it. OR networked with everyone else on the web.
Every gun board except GT i am or was Jim

Are ya talking about CE? His name was Claude. Still talk to him all the time. He is down with the NM thugs.

[Great-Kazoo]

Are ya talking about CE? His name was Claude. Still talk to him all the time. He is down with the NM thugs.

Oui. i believe that's him. He always had good shit. I "Think" his coming & going nort of de border may have helped.