Where can I go to read about some REAL facts concerning our economy?

[Rucker61]

If you are still taking notes at this point, then you should just vote from your heart. Your brain won't ever get it.

Sorry, I have a degree in accounting. I don't have a heart. How about those numbers?

[MrPrena]

So far , we cover cpi, ppi, core cpi, djia, housing stats , and commodities price.
,On top of that, I would like to add real wages, unemployment number including people who gave up. Underemployed is another huge factor as well.

[Colorado Luckydog]

Sorry, I have a degree in accounting. I don't have a heart. How about those numbers?

I'll try to type this very slow so you can get it. How much more are you paying for gas? How much more are you spending at the grocery store? Are you getting more for your dollar or less? How much more is the deficit? Obama has spent more money than all the other Presidents combined and it has done nothing but put us into debt that will take a miracle to get out of. If you don't understand that, then shove your degree where the sun don't shine. You can lead a horse to water but you can't fix stupid. Or something like that.

Obama is not the real threat to our nation. He is just one stupid a-hole. The real threat to our nation is that there just maybe enough people like yourself that would be stupid enough to vote him in again.

[Lex_Luthor]

Not that I need that information to get me to vote one way or another. I know who I'm voting for. I'm trying to come up with some sources to help educate some family, that aren't left-slanted resources. Particularly regarding unemployment rates.

[Irving]

I'd like to read about the Koch brothers from a website that isn't overtly liberal.

[MrPrena]

Yup. That is another way for government to tax us.
Increase money supply, numerous quantitative easing.

I'll try to type this very slow so you can get it. How much more are you paying for gas? How much more are you spending at the grocery store? Are you getting more for your dollar or less? How much more is the deficit? Obama has spent more money than all the other Presidents combined and it has done nothing but put us into debt that will take a miracle to get out of. If you don't understand that, then shove your degree where the sun don't shine. You can lead a horse to water but you can't fix stupid. Or something like that.

Obama is not the real threat to our nation. He is just one stupid a-hole. The real threat to our nation is that there just maybe enough people like yourself that would be stupid enough to vote him in again.

[oinco]

I disagree partly with those that suggest looking at .gov reports. There is a lot of "shift" that is put into those to paint the "correct picture" for those on the hotseat, to really get the pic- you would ideally need to consult those in the know for each industry report as to where/how/when those figures were collected and the associated potential errors and slant involved. i.e. think unemployment reports...it is so fondled you would think it was nickel night in Vegas.

I enjoy reading the footnoted and so far reasonably objective (barring the occasional rant) http://market-ticker.org.

This should pretty much sum it up:





The second report will become most blatantly telling when you think about the top two "layers" and how they inter-relate....and why are they even inter-relating in the first place?? And, to what extent is it legal that they interplay? Not a small answer.

[Rucker61]

I'll try to type this very slow so you can get it. How much more are you paying for gas? How much more are you spending at the grocery store? Are you getting more for your dollar or less? How much more is the deficit? Obama has spent more money than all the other Presidents combined and it has done nothing but put us into debt that will take a miracle to get out of.

I agree that the debt situation is dire. I don't see a plan from either candidate to fix it.

If you don't understand that, then shove your degree where the sun don't shine.

Is that where you keep yours?

You can lead a horse to water but you can't fix stupid. Or something like that.

I'll just put you down as "don't understand the question". I'll try again. You said that Gov. Romney, as President, would surprise the Democrats with how quickly he could implement a turnaround. I just asked how you would quantify "how quickly" and "turnaround" so that objectively, we will all know when we get there. Here are some ideas for you: have we turned around when the budget is balanced? When the debt sees its first reduction? When employment hits the level of [pick a year/pick a percentage]? When the GDP hits $20 trillion? When the reduction hits $1 trillion? In time, will this take one year? Four years? You made the claim, I presumed you had some definitions in mind. Is it just "wait and see"?

[Rucker61]

Not that I need that information to get me to vote one way or another. I know who I'm voting for. I'm trying to come up with some sources to help educate some family, that aren't left-slanted resources. Particularly regarding unemployment rates.

Good luck finding much at all on the economy that isn't tinged with partisanship at this time.

[spqrzilla]

We will have turned around as an economy when U6 unemployment starts going down significantly. Not the regular number that is reported, that might stay up as those people who gave up looking for work (included in U6) return to looking for work.

We will have turned around the economy when we start signficiantly adding more jobs than just the number required to meet population growth/immigration