Romney and the Mass AWB..

[sniper7]

Glad you reposted this.

I don't think it will change the minds of anyone, hopefully it will. It seems that the people who get it, will, and those that don't, wont.

[clublights]

Glad you reposted this.

I don't think it will change the minds of anyone, hopefully it will. It seems that the people who get it, will, and those that don't, wont.

I just took the anti's at face value ( yes a mistake I know.. which is why i did some research) that Romney passed the AWB and was as anti as they come.

After reading from a Pro Gun group basically singing his praises ( they even admit.. they had no chance of enough votes to repel the damn thing), It at least showed me he is not an anti .. He's not a "john wayne" by any mean but I doubt he will push to have our guns jacked...

[Jer]

Thanks for posting this. There is a lot of misinformation out there about Romney and the MA AWB.

Overcoming people's misconceptions is a hard thing to do. For example, Ronald Reagan was probably one of the most anti-gun presidents in our history...but he really didn't push that agenda on a national level like he did as governor of CA.

I don't think Romney will, either.

But you think Barack will? He didn't do jack about it in his first term and as awful as it was something tells me if he wanted to do anything it would have been in his first term as there's no way he could have predicted he would have a chance of winning a 2nd term due to the GOP putting forth such a weak candidate. To me, the whole 'Barry wants your guns' thing is just more fear mongering to drive votes.

[clublights]

But you think Barack will?

He stated him self in the 2nd debate he wishes to reinstate the AWB ban.

[Jer]

He stated him self in the 2nd debate he wishes to reinstate the AWB ban.

Yeah, and if elected Romeny claims he will repeal Obamacare? ORLY? How so? Anyone actually thought about what that would take and how a president could do it? Either one is about as likely as the other if that candidate gets elected. We need to stop with all the BS scare tactics and examine the real issues. The hyperbole from both sides is deafening.

[Bailey Guns]

But you think Barack will? He didn't do jack about it in his first term and as awful as it was something tells me if he wanted to do anything it would have been in his first term as there's no way he could have predicted he would have a chance of winning a 2nd term due to the GOP putting forth such a weak candidate. To me, the whole 'Barry wants your guns' thing is just more fear mongering to drive votes.

Use a little common sense, Jer. Here are several reasons it hasn't happened under an Obama 1st term but might in an Obama 2nd term:

1) Obama didn't do it in his first term precisely because he had to worry about re-election and gun control is a losing proposition for democrats. They all want the AWB...they just aren't quite ready to give up their careers for it. Obama will have nothing to lose in his second term. Just like he told Medvedev when he thought the mics weren't listening: "I'll have a little more flexibility."

2) He just said in the 2nd debate he'd sign an AWB bill. If you want to believe something, believe that.

3) Republicans have controlled the house for the last two years. No way a republican house is going to pass an AWB. No way.

4) Romney will have absolutely no reason to bring it up. The republican house isn't interested and neither is his base. Why would he piss off his entire electoral base by bringing up gun control?

But don't take my word for hit...Here it is straight from the horse's mouth:

At the end of a long answer to the question, “What has your administration done or planned to do to limit the availability of assault weapons?” Obama said this:

“My belief is that, (A), we have to enforce the laws we’ve already got, make sure that we’re keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, those who are mentally ill. We’ve done a much better job in terms of background checks, but we’ve got more to do when it comes to enforcement.

“But I also share your belief that weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters don’t belong on our streets. And so what I’m trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. But part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence. Because frankly, in my home town of Chicago, there’s an awful lot of violence and they’re not using AK-47s. They’re using cheap hand guns.”

Frankly, that sounds like Obama wants more than an AWB. Looks like he want's to go after hand guns, too. Romney's response was 180 degrees to that.

It makes no sense whatsoever to believe Romney will try to pass an AWB. If it does, give me a compelling reason. The only democrats you ever hear talking about an AWB or gun control are democrats who are in safe democratic-voting districts like Feinstein, Degette, Schumer, ad nauseum.

[Bailey Guns]

Yeah, and if elected Romeny claims he will repeal Obamacare? ORLY? How so? Anyone actually thought about what that would take and how a president could do it? Either one is about as likely as the other if that candidate gets elected. We need to stop with all the BS scare tactics and examine the real issues. The hyperbole from both sides is deafening.

He doesn't have to repeal it. And, yes, that would take a lot of bipartisanship between the house and senate and isn't likely.

What he can do are issue waivers through executive order to all 50 states exempting them from the provisions of Obamacare.

On his first day in office, Mitt Romney will issue an executive order that paves the way for the federal government to issue Obamacare waivers to all fifty states. He will then work with Congress to repeal the full legislation as quickly as possible.

That's how he gets rid of Obamacare.

[Bailey Guns]

It really sounds to me like a lot of you are really searching for reasons not to like, or vote for, Romney. Personally, I can find a lot to like about the guy and I think he's the right guy at the right time.

Of course, I have to add the disclaimer: No, he's not the perfect candidate. But this will be the 9th presidential election in which I've voted and I have yet to see the perfect candidate...from any party. Romney is as good as I've seen.

[Jer]

It really sounds to me like a lot of you are really searching for reasons not to like, or vote for, Romney.

Didn't really search so much as have it presented to me by the man himself.

[jhood001]

Frankly, that sounds like Obama wants more than an AWB. Looks like he want's to go after hand guns, too. Romney's response was 180 degrees to that.

I won't argue as to whether Obama wants to ban guns or not, because I think he would if he could. However, I didn't draw the same conclusion you did from his comments about handguns.

He was making the point that assault weapons aren't the problem as plenty of killing is being done with handguns. The underlying causes of the violence are the real problem. The handgun piece was a segway into what he said after -

And so what can we do to intervene, to make sure that young people have opportunity; that our schools are working; that if there's violence on the streets, that working with faith groups and law enforcement, we can catch it before it gets out of control.

Just sayin'.