Romney and the Mass AWB..

[Bailey Guns]

You could be right. On the other hand, "Saturday Night Specials" has been a war cry of democrats since I was a kid in the 60s.

[sniper7]

Obama will be more reckless in a 2nd term. He will push through his agenda, even with a republican house. People can be bought, dwindling down your rights little by little is easy to accomplish when you give something up to make you feel like you are getting something.

want national carry?, okay...next awb.

want the budget cut, entitlement program reform etc, sure, lets work a deal and somebody will toss on an AWB amendment.

It can happen with any president, but it will ultimately have to be signed by them and I would rather see Romney with the pen and the choice than Obama.

[cysoto]

Wait... Are we talking about the same Mitt Romney who back in 2004 stated:
"Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts. These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."

At best, all he's proven with his "new stance" on gun laws is that he is capable of adjusting his personal views to give people what he thinks they want to hear.

Regardless of who gets elected as President this coming November, our Right to Bear Arms hangs from a VERY fine thread.

[clublights]

Wait... Are we talking about the same Mitt Romney who back in 2004 stated:
"Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts. These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."

At best, all he's proven with his "new stance" on gun laws is that he is capable of adjusting his personal views to give people what he thinks they want to hear.

Regardless of who gets elected as President this coming November, our Right to Bear Arms hangs from a VERY fine thread.

Please show a source for your quote.


What I posted at the start was from a PRO Gun group in Mass.

[cysoto]

Please show a source for your quote.


What I posted at the start was from a PRO Gun group in Mass.

Are you honestly claiming that you were unaware of Romney's flip-flop stance on gun control issues?

Here is a few more of his "revised" views: http://www.wbur.org/2012/07/24/romney-guns-nra

Don't be fooled into thinking that your gun rights are going to be safe under Romney. Neither of these candidates is gun-friendly.

[clublights]

Are you honestly claiming that you were unaware of Romney's flip-flop stance on gun control issues?

Here is a few more of his "revised" views: http://www.wbur.org/2012/07/24/romney-guns-nra

Don't be fooled into thinking that your gun rights are going to be safe under Romney. Neither of these candidates is gun-friendly.

While romeny may be a "flip flop"

your cited article is already selling lies.

As governor of Massachusetts, he signed the first permanent state ban on assault weapons. “Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts,” Romney said at the bill-signing ceremony in 2004… “These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”

My cited paper by GOAL ( Gun Owners Action League) already shows this( the bolded part) as not remotely correct the Mass AWB was started and already perm. in 1998. 5 years before Romney became gov.

In 1998 the Massachusetts legislature passed its own assault weapons ban (MGL Chapter 140, Section 131M). This ban did not rely on the federal language and contained no sunset clause. Knowing that we did not have the votes in 2004 to get rid of the state law, we did not want to loose all of the federal exemptions that were not in the state law so this new bill was amended to include them.

[cysoto]

Your search-fu is weak grasshopper...

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The Commonwealth of Massachusetts
Executive Department
State House Boston, MA 02133
(617) 725-4000

Mitt Romney, Governor
Kerry Healey, Lieutenant Governor

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE, July 1, 2004

ROMNEY SIGNS OFF ON PERMANENT ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN

In a move that will help keep the streets and neighborhoods of Massachusetts safe, Governor Mitt Romney today signed into law a permanent assault weapons ban that forever makes it harder for criminals to get their hands on these dangerous guns.

“Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts,” Romney said, at a bill signing ceremony with legislators, sportsmen’s groups and gun safety advocates. “These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”

Like the federal assault weapons ban, the state ban, put in place in 1998, was scheduled to expire in September. The new law ensures these deadly weapons, including AK-47s, UZIs and Mac-10 rifles, are permanently prohibited in Massachusetts no matter what happens on the federal level.

“We are pleased to mark an important victory in the fight against crime,” said Lieutenant Governor Kerry Healey. “The most important job of state government is ensuring public safety. Governor Romney and I are determined to do whatever it takes to stop the flood of dangerous weapons into our cities and towns and to make Massachusetts safer for law-abiding citizens.”. . . . . . . . . . .“Never before has there been such bi-partisan cooperation in the passage of gun safety legislation of this magnitude in this nation,” said John Rosenthal, co-founder and chair of Stop Handgun Violence. “I applaud the leadership of the Governor, Senate President, House Speaker and entire Legislature for passage of this assault weapons ban renewal. They have shown that Massachusetts can continue to lead the nation in protecting the public and law enforcement from military style assault weapons.”

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Back in 2004, GOAL, - the same organization who is now singing the virtues of Mr. Romney - asked its member to contact Gov. Romney and "express their outrage with their betrayal of gun owners in Massachusetts." http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/10...alsehoo/190740

The legislation in question, signed by Romney in July 2004, actually enraged "the pro-gun folks." In a press release titled, "Romney Signs Off On Permanent Assault Weapons Ban," the then-Massachusetts governor described the weapons as "instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people." According to Massachusetts' leading gun advocacy group, Gun Owners Action League (GOAL), Romney told reporters at the signing ceremony that his position on assault weapons was the same as Democratic gun violence prevention stalwarts Ted Kennedy and John Kerry.

GOAL called upon its members to "contact Governor Mitt Romney and Lieutenant Governor Kerry Healey and express their outrage with their betrayal of gun owners in Massachusetts."

[clublights]

Your search-fu is weak grasshopper...

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Back in 2004, GOAL, - the same organization who is now singing the virtues of Mr. Romney - asked its member to contact Gov. Romney and "express their outrage with their betrayal of gun owners in Massachusetts." http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/10...alsehoo/190740

So why in 2007 ( which is what my paper is dated) would GOAL change it's mind? and on THIER Site?

[cysoto]

So why in 2007 ( which is what my paper is dated) would GOAL change it's mind?

Though I cannot be certain of their reasons, I will venture to say that they did so because they would rather compromise their integrity by backing up ANY Republican candidate instead of allowing its Liberal counterpart to come out on top. Then again, this is only speculation on my part!

[Jer]

Though I cannot be certain of their reasons, I will venture to say that they did so because they would rather compromise their integrity by backing up ANY Republican candidate instead of allowing its Liberal counterpart to come out on top. Then again, this is only speculation on my part!

Whaa?!?! That almost NEVER happens!