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    and ....
    the people getting free stuff are neither appreciative or grateful, they just want more and more .... if it's not given, they go take




    my only response is to go to work - helps me get my stuff - I don't want any free stuff!!

    but ....
    it perpetuates them getting more free stuff when I get my stuff

    beer helps a little

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdr240 View Post
    and ....
    the people getting free stuff are neither appreciative or grateful, they just want more and more .... if it's not given, they go take




    my only response is to go to work - helps me get my stuff - I don't want any free stuff!!

    but ....
    it perpetuates them getting more free stuff when I get my stuff

    beer helps a little
    I agree 100%, and let's not forget, studies show that when people work and pay for their own things they usually tend to treat their things better and appreciate the value of those things and the value of a dollar more. But the majority of these leeches don't care, they get the money and don't think twice about where it comes from or place any real value on the money they get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    But the majority of these leeches don't care, they get the money and don't think twice about where it comes from or place any real value on the money they get.
    I'd love to see where you got your data. While not excusing the long term welfare recipients that could work but don't, historical data have shown that the majority of welfare recipients only receive benefits for less than two years. Given that it's not likely that the recipients save any of the bounty that they get, or stick it into off-shore bank accounts, all of the money spent on welfare recipients immediately re-enters the economy, multiple times, as the places that money gets spent aren't long term depositories, either.

    I think the point here is that most of the increase in payouts has gone to new recipients, meaning that jobs aren't available. The job creators haven't been doing their jobs.

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    Has a certain "Carlinesque" ring to it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    I'd love to see where you got your data. While not excusing the long term welfare recipients that could work but don't, historical data have shown that the majority of welfare recipients only receive benefits for less than two years. Given that it's not likely that the recipients save any of the bounty that they get, or stick it into off-shore bank accounts, all of the money spent on welfare recipients immediately re-enters the economy, multiple times, as the places that money gets spent aren't long term depositories, either.

    I think the point here is that most of the increase in payouts has gone to new recipients, meaning that jobs aren't available. The job creators haven't been doing their jobs.
    No data, just my opinion- and by Leeches I don't mean those who actually are in desperate need of a little help and use welfare to get out of a crap situation, I mean those who "get they welfare check and go hook up that whip with some new dubs and get a bag o' dat chronic, dawg."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    No data, just my opinion- and by Leeches I don't mean those who actually are in desperate need of a little help and use welfare to get out of a crap situation, I mean those who "get they welfare check and go hook up that whip with some new dubs and get a bag o' dat chronic, dawg."
    I didn't think you'd be against those in need, but do you really think that the majority of those on welfare fit the stereotype you reference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    I didn't think you'd be against those in need, but do you really think that the majority of those on welfare fit the stereotype you reference?
    No, did I say the majority of those on welfare? Nope, I said the Majority of the leeches (see my previous post for my example of a leech). Typical Rucker, you really are our token liberal- you sure do take things out of context and twist what's said very well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    I'd love to see where you got your data. While not excusing the long term welfare recipients that could work but don't, historical data have shown that the majority of welfare recipients only receive benefits for less than two years. Given that it's not likely that the recipients save any of the bounty that they get, or stick it into off-shore bank accounts, all of the money spent on welfare recipients immediately re-enters the economy, multiple times, as the places that money gets spent aren't long term depositories, either.

    I think the point here is that most of the increase in payouts has gone to new recipients, meaning that jobs aren't available. The job creators haven't been doing their jobs.

    My Aunt has been getting welfare for over 30 years, my Uncle who is the youngest has been getting welfare for something like 15 years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DD977GM2 View Post
    My Aunt has been getting welfare for over 30 years, my Uncle who is the youngest has been getting welfare for something like 15 years now.
    Nice anedote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    I'd love to see where you got your data. While not excusing the long term welfare recipients that could work but don't, historical data have shown that the majority of welfare recipients only receive benefits for less than two years. Given that it's not likely that the recipients save any of the bounty that they get, or stick it into off-shore bank accounts, all of the money spent on welfare recipients immediately re-enters the economy, multiple times, as the places that money gets spent aren't long term depositories, either.
    The idea that welfare spending has some sort of positive multiplier is really nonsense, even Obama's own economist (who has since left the admin) who specialized in studying govt spending as GDP multiplier put welfare spending as having a multiplier less than 1.00 which means that it cost the economy net.

    I think the point here is that most of the increase in payouts has gone to new recipients, meaning that jobs aren't available. The job creators haven't been doing their jobs.
    "Job creators" ? That term really annoys me. There are no such thing as "job creators". No one waves a f'ing magic wand and leaves behind jobs like little rabbit turds.

    Jobs are "created" when there is economic activity. Jobs show up when people want goods and services, work to achieve a surplus to pay for them and then pay for them. Those jobs arise when others invest their wealth to create and expand businesses to service that demand for goods and services.

    There are no "job creators". Least of all anywhere in government where you hear the silly term.
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