24 yo kills mom and cuts her up and gets caught driving with her corpse

[jerrymrc]

http://www.9news.com/news/article/29...m-mentally-ill

Where do these sickos come from? Either our Mental Health System sucks or we need to get rid of these people.

Regan killed the mental health system?

Governorns, like presidents, don't control budgets. They can merely sign them into law or veto them.
The legislature controls purse-strings, not only at the federal level, but at the state level as well.
The real culpret was the "patients' rights" movement of the 1960s, in which the ACLU among others said that mentally ill persons should NOT be institutionalized against their will. It's a very nice sentiment and well intended and on part, I agree with them. However, like all paths leading to hell, it's paved with these good intentions, and often the unintended consequences are worse than the original "problem."
Further enabling the situation was the Community Mental Health Act of 1963 (CMHA), signed into law by President Kennedy. The law provided federal funding to establish a network of "locally based" community mental health facilities. The idea was that this was to be a local alternative to institutionalization.
In fact, it led to massive deinstitutionalization. The law did not require formerly institutionalized patients to be institutionalized at the local level. As a result, many people left the state mental hospitals as "free men" and just began roaming the streets. Most did not get treatment locally. ...meaning they did not get their meds.
The timing of all of this is interesting because the subsequent massive deinstitutionalization of the mentally ill over the next 15 years or so coincides with the massive increase in homelessness over the same period.
The Wikipedia entry is a pretty decent summation of the events.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communi...tal_Health_Act
So to summarize, no, the eeeeeevil Ronald Reagan didn't shove the mentally ill out on the street. You can thank well-intentioned do-gooders for that.

Just a thought.

[sniper7]

wow, that is just disgusting.

[Wiggity]

I can't come up with the thought of a lot of this shit.


How the hell do people actually DO this stuff, much less think it up....

[BREATHER]

What jerrymrc posted is accurate. It is a sad state of affairs.

What is even more disturbing is that a very large portion of the "mentally ill" are out there partying on your dime. They have some nonsense diagnosis, get social security benefits and party all day. These non income tax paying individuals are the meth freaks, crack heads, herion addicts out there. Where do you think they get the money to buy their shit with.

Whats even worse, there are poeple out there that have worked most of theri lives and need SS benifits and cannot get them... The whole system is fucked up...

[fitz19d]

The nations mental health system is terrible, colorado's in particular. Think we are ranked 47th or something.

Seen a bit of it first hand, first w/ my first literally insane girlfriend. She's still locked up in a hospital somewhere, but this was after 8 years of get admitted for a week released to lose it again and run in the streets naked. Then in for a month or so at a time. Finally spend 6 months in and she'd be pretty good. Until like seems like all nutters do and they start believing the meds make them sick. (Which it sorta does, dumbs/slows them down in many cases.) Goes off them again and I think she's been locked up for the last 1.5 years since they can't do something better.

At work I see where patients are sometimes discharged because there are no beds available statewide. (Feels like sometimes that should be let go are kept too readily, I almost want to make the accusation because they have health insurance.) Lack of funding and the fact that most of the problem cases are destitute means there is no profit either. I think here in the north, NCMC or one of those has closed it's MHE beds, leaving us with Mountain Crest with like 25 beds and I think maybe another 10 at Crisis Stabilization in Greeley unless that's the one closing.

[Singlestack]

The nations mental health system is terrible, colorado's in particular. Think we are ranked 47th or something.

Seen a bit of it first hand, first w/ my first literally insane girlfriend. She's still locked up in a hospital somewhere, but this was after 8 years of get admitted for a week released to lose it again and run in the streets naked. Then in for a month or so at a time. Finally spend 6 months in and she'd be pretty good. Until like seems like all nutters do and they start believing the meds make them sick. (Which it sorta does, dumbs/slows them down in many cases.) Goes off them again and I think she's been locked up for the last 1.5 years since they can't do something better.

At work I see where patients are sometimes discharged because there are no beds available statewide. (Feels like sometimes that should be let go are kept too readily, I almost want to make the accusation because they have health insurance.) Lack of funding and the fact that most of the problem cases are destitute means there is no profit either. I think here in the north, NCMC or one of those has closed it's MHE beds, leaving us with Mountain Crest with like 25 beds and I think maybe another 10 at Crisis Stabilization in Greeley unless that's the one closing.

Couldn't agree more. Our mental health system is essentially non-existent now. A good portion of the homeless are mentally incomptetent to some degree.

These kind of deranged killers seem to be more common these days. There will be more; a good reason to carry in addition to regular thugs.

Singlestack

[UrbanWolf]

What fucks me over is the thought of society trying a find politically correct reasons to make these "men" more tolerable.

[T-Giv]

What jerrymrc posted is accurate. It is a sad state of affairs.

What is even more disturbing is that a very large portion of the "mentally ill" are out there partying on your dime. They have some nonsense diagnosis, get social security benefits and party all day. These non income tax paying individuals are the meth freaks, crack heads, herion addicts out there. Where do you think they get the money to buy their shit with.

Whats even worse, there are poeple out there that have worked most of theri lives and need SS benifits and cannot get them... The whole system is fucked up...

THIS. I have seen it in action. "Mentally ill" people who have their MMJ cards that is paid for by the gov'ment. Shit pisses me off like you can't believe! It is upside down. Plain n' simple.