I have stayed out of the politics posting, but...

[CMP_5.56]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUFW...e_gdata_player

Yeager may not be everybody's cup of tea, but he doesn't bullshit. And honestly, I'm pretty sick of people acting like we only have two choices. I keep hearing, I don't want to vote for someone who might not win, and I don't want to waste my vote. If everyone that said that bullshit line, actually voted their conscience, things mightactually change.

[GilpinGuy]

This will be good.

[sniper7]

not sure if this is your video or not but:

the guy doesn't get it. if you read JUST the threads I have started, and some of the responses in the political forum, you will see that this country has pretty much never had a 3rd party that had a chance at winning an election for president of the united states.

there are lots of us who will vote Romney this time around, who would probably rather vote for ourselves, or a 3rd party candidate. I would much rather prefer if I were supreme ruler...then i can get done what i wanted to and head in the right direction as I see fit. but that isn't the way the system works. a third party is also not the way the system works. so in that aspect, I am a REALIST. anyone who thinks a third party win, let alone a third party vote is going to have an effect on them is lost.

A third party hasn't even won an electoral vote since the mid 1800's. sorry, but ross perrot didn't have a chance, Paul swapped over because he thought he might have a chance....he didn't. and now we are left with Romney. It is always going to be the lessor of two evils for the foreseeable future. The country is split damn near evenly with people on social welfare programs which completely run/affect their lives, and the rest who are paying the tab, getting taxed on everything, covers the private sector expenses, funding the .gov, and working to get the leeches of the .gov teat.

Until everyone is brought up with the understanding, and the adults paying into the system understand that you have to work for what you want, things shouldn't be handed to you, and the .gov is not necessary to better your life, we will continue down our current path.

This progression has not happened overnight. It has happened slowly. To expect and overnight cure is just as well asinine. It will require slow steps in the right direction to right this course.

[MrPrena]

Yeah, use
"pussy"
"treason"
"nation of pussies"
"anything other than gary johnson is treasonous"
"cowards"



Great way to gather up swing/undecided voters for his candidate.

It is like listening to MD about sequential-manual transmission job on a high end sports car.

[CMP_5.56]

Like I said, he isn't for everyone, but at least he stands for what he believes in.

I don't give a damn what our government has been, how long it took to get this way. I will vote for someone I believe stands for something. I refuse to vote for the lessor of two evils, it's that mentality that got us here.

This country started as a no party system. Change has to start somewhere, there is no reason to wait it out until people get smarter, because that isn't going to happen, ever.

Honestly, I speak the same way James Yeager does. I don't give a shit if people don't like the way I talk. I will vote for someone I believe in, and can stand behind. Even if he loses by a landslide, at least my conscience will be clear. When your choices are shit covered in dirt, and shit covered in ash, I'll say no to both. Even if the majority of the nation chooses to eat a pile of shit, I don't have to.

You say you can't change things overnight, but some people have to start before everyone else is comfortable with it.

[sniper7]

I had to laughter a little when you said you don't have to eat the pile of shit[/QUOTE] bceuse you coted your consious. You end up eating shit no matter what. Its been happening your entire life.

[Fmedges]

Because even if a 3rd party candidate could win the popular vote, I'm sure the electoral college would elect them as well right?

[Bailey Guns]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUFW...e_gdata_player

Yeager may not be everybody's cup of tea, but he doesn't bullshit. And honestly, I'm pretty sick of people acting like we only have two choices. I keep hearing, I don't want to vote for someone who might not win, and I don't want to waste my vote. If everyone that said that bullshit line, actually voted their conscience, things mightactually change.

Why is it so many people who want to vote for an unknown, un-electable or fringe candidate seem to think the rest of us aren't "voting our conscience" by voting for someone who can actually win. Furthermore, the argument isn't that you only have 2 choices. The argument is that you have 2 realistic choices. Either Romney or Obama will be elected. No one else. No matter how many times you or anyone else says otherwise, no matter how much you wish it wasn't so. Those two candidates are your only realistic choices for an electable candidate. So you can "vote your conscience" (just like I'm going to do by voting for Romney) or you can vote for the person who you think most closely matches your values and beliefs.

Your logic is flawed and I, like the overwhelming majority of others who support him, reject your reasoning that Romney is the "lessor of two evils" (as stated in the video). I'm not going to explain it again. You've either been paying attention or you haven't.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. You're not wrong for wanting what you want. Misguided? Maybe. But here's the deal - and I'm guessing you're not an Obama supporter so I'll make that assumption:

• You can vote libertarian (or some other 3rd party). Nothing will change because your candidate will not get elected. You'll still be frustrated with how things are. And I'm guessing this will help Obama to get elected more than it will help Romney (because I'm assuming some frustrated democrats will vote 3rd party, too...but not as many as republicans). On balance this is a vote for the status quo. But YOU will feel better for "voting your conscience". I'll also include the option of not voting in this category because I believe the outcome would be the same.
• You can vote for Obama. This is a vote for continued big government only getting bigger. This is a vote for a weaker military, higher taxes, Obamacare, continued trillion dollar deficits, a $20T national debt by the end of the next 4 years, more entitlements to people who don't want to better themselves, less domestic energy production, higher potential for some sort of gun control, more government intrusion into your personal life, etc...
• You can vote for Romney. This is vote for starting to shrink government, less government spending, no higher taxes, a balanced budget, increased domestic energy production, ending Obamacare, a stronger military, almost zero chance of any sort of gun control, no more "world apology tours" for America's greatness or "blame America first" attitudes, no more socialist and communist czars like Van Jones, etc...

So, choose wisely.

[Bailey Guns]

Because even if a 3rd party candidate could win the popular vote, I'm sure the electoral college would elect them as well right?

You do realize the popular vote means little, right? That's not how a president is elected. If it were, the high-population areas would ALWAYS control the elections. It's not uncommon for someone to win more popular votes and still lose the election (2000 for example). The only way it matters is on a state-by-state basis where the electors vote according to the popular vote in what is a winner-take-all system in most states.

[Great-Kazoo]

Well you were doing good (for a while) by staying out of the political threads.

Vote for who you want, just don't complain IF O wins.