official 10-22-2012 presidential debate thread

[MrPrena]

I never said I worked for a financial firm, or in that industry. My education is in math, accounting, operations management and combat engineering. I work in high tech supply chain.

Still, interesting that we could be the world's largest oil producer, neh? Whodathunk?

I must have confused with other forum member.
Give you a prop for studying math-math.

So many people out there in the financial firm thiking they studies math, but they actually studied business math. Business math almost never even uses highschool calc.

[Great-Kazoo]

Good point, and it's all based on the price of oil. It has to stay above $75 a barrel, apparently, to make US oil drilling economically feasible. Once it falls below that, cheap Mideast oil is our best bet. What's better for America, producing more of the imports we need at $75+ with the resulting higher gas prices but higher employment, or importing cheap oil with cheaper gas but producing less ourselves with loss of oil industry jobs?

Also, is anyone still willing to have a dilbit pipeline run across their back yard now?

If the jobs guarantee and lower fuel cost at the pump were there, then yes.
Environmentally we have been hosed for years, why not recoup it economically?

O's policies would increase regulation to the point that US companies would not shut, but slow down to the point they were just covering their nut.

One thing we seem to forget in the back & forth regarding O & R is this. No matter who is in office, with out congressional backing, their ideas / policies will never see the light of day.
O has bitched about his in ability to get anything down, when those of use who can remember (sometimes) more than the last week, know he had full democratic backing the 1st two years in office.

My biggest concern, as i have read others here, is O's ability, If re-elected, to nominate 1 possibly 2 SCOTUS judges.
Combine that with his distaste for America and blatant ass kissing of Islamist etc have us treading water in the shitter.

[Fmedges]

I am concerned with the possibility of the military budget getting smaller. I joined during the Clinton cuts area and got out in the 3rd year of the war. I can tell you that a military that has no money is a dangerous place. The Marines have the smallest budget of all the services and my unit just like many could not afford much. Before the war when we trained in MOUNT town we had to yell bang because we couldn't afford blanks. Our training Ops were cut short because we would always run out of fuel. Our rag top humvees would break down constantly. My gas mask was broken and my NBC suit had holes in it (I deployed with this BTW). My Unit was not issued SAPI plates for our deployment. Our NVG's were very scarce. Most of the time we did our night blackout driving without them. I can tell you from all these experiences that a military that does not have adequate funding is a dangerous place for the war fighter and it should be avoided at all cost.

[Rucker61]

I must have confused with other forum member.
Give you a prop for studying math-math.

So many people out there in the financial firm thiking they studies math, but they actually studied business math. Business math almost never even uses highschool calc.

Actually, the financial firms are heavily recruiting the hard sciences, especially math and CS. It's kind of sad.

[Rucker61]

I am concerned with the possibility of the military budget getting smaller. I joined during the Clinton cuts area and got out in the 3rd year of the war. I can tell you that a military that has no money is a dangerous place. The Marines have the smallest budget of all the services and my unit just like many could not afford much. Before the war when we trained in MOUNT town we had to yell bang because we couldn't afford blanks. Our training Ops were cut short because we would always run out of fuel. Our rag top humvees would break down constantly. My gas mask was broken and my NBC suit had holes in it (I deployed with this BTW). My Unit was not issued SAPI plates for our deployment. Our NVG's were very scarce. Most of the time we did our night blackout driving without them. I can tell you from all these experiences that a military that does not have adequate funding is a dangerous place for the war fighter and it should be avoided at all cost.

The problem with the Marines is that they are funded by the Navy. The Corps is way down their list of funding priorities, and always have been. It's too bad. You guys would get more stuff under the auspices of the Army.

[Rucker61]

If the jobs guarantee and lower fuel cost at the pump were there, then yes.
Environmentally we have been hosed for years, why not recoup it economically?

O's policies would increase regulation to the point that US companies would not shut, but slow down to the point they were just covering their nut.

We'll have to agree to disagree here.

One thing we seem to forget in the back & forth regarding O & R is this. No matter who is in office, with out congressional backing, their ideas / policies will never see the light of day.
O has bitched about his in ability to get anything down, when those of use who can remember (sometimes) more than the last week, know he had full democratic backing the 1st two years in office.

The Democrats enjoyed a filibuster free Senate for just over 5 months in Obama's current term, in two different time periods.

[MrPrena]

Actually, the financial firms are heavily recruiting the hard sciences, especially math and CS. It's kind of sad.

Very true, because even a phd econ or cfa guys have hard time solving basic equations like basic second order ode, linear alg problem.
If they ran multiple random samples to calculate lapasche or other index, they would have hard time.

This is why even a good fund managers can't even beat s&p500 and other ETFs listed in the market. Not to mention huge ass loads funds have on top of it.

Also they are looking to recruit econ and finance heavy guys who had a career inside the sector that they will cover.

[mevshooter]

The problem with the Marines is that they are funded by the Navy. The Corps is way down their list of funding priorities, and always have been. It's too bad. You guys would get more stuff under the auspices of the Army.

My dad has been in the Army basically since he was out of high school and said something similar to me. When weighing the goals and responsibilities of what the army does vs. the navy it seems to make more sense that the Marines should be under the Army's network rather than the Navy's.

[Fmedges]

My dad has been in the Army basically since he was out of high school and said something similar to me. When weighing the goals and responsibilities of what the army does vs. the navy it seems to make more sense that the Marines should be under the Army's network rather than the Navy's.

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