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    Default Heavy Carbine buffers?

    So do heavy carbine buffers help reduce recoil.
    what works best 16in barreled AR Carbine .223?

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    Some have experienced ejection and feeding problems with lighter loads compared to running the hotter Mil-Spec ammo.

    You will need to turn in your Man Card if the recoil of an AR is too much for you.......
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    16" barrel and what is the gas system length carbine(7") or mid-length (9") ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser.Shooter View Post
    16" barrel and what is the gas system length carbine(7") or mid-length (9") ?

    7in gas system

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    recoil?? really??

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    Quote Originally Posted by van7559 View Post
    recoil?? really??
    Shoot your AR with the butt resting on your nutz and then think about recoil. (Disclaimer: not that I have actually done that.)

    On a seriously note to the OP I am not sure what heavy buffer your talking about?

    I use the Spike's ST-T2 and mid length gas systems resulting in a nice soft cycle. I could see if running a carbine gas and a light buffer upgrading that buffer to a little heavier weight might make it feel a little better but between a standard and and the ST-T2 I am using is mere ounces of weight. I have read that for short barrel rifles under 14" it helps.

    Don't over think it, I see no real reason to use a "Heavy buffer" on a 5.56 carbine with 14.5 or more barrel. Someone wiser (matter of opinion) than me will probably chime in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    Shoot your AR with the butt resting on your nutz and then think about recoil. (Disclaimer: not that I have actually done that.)
    I thought that was required to properly break in the weapon, and "season the barrel"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    Shoot your AR with the butt resting on your nutz and then think about recoil. (Disclaimer: not that I have actually done that.) )
    There is an old Army training film that we were shown at the beginning of basic training where the instructor was doing that with an M16. Probably of early Vietnam era.
    Maybe some of the "Old Farts" can remember seeing it, if alzheimer's hasn't set in too deep........
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    looking for better recoil control for better Accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    looking for better recoil control for better Accuracy.
    Not sure if it will really help with accuracy, but minimizing as much of the "recoil" as you can lets you stay on target for faster follow up shots.

    I have always run the "heavy" buffer in all of my carbines with no problems. Most with the mid-length gas system but a few with the carbine length gas system.

    I recently put together my first 14.5" with the mid-length gas system and was worried it might not cycle properly with the heavy buffer. Turns out it cycles just fine. 300 rounds and no problems yet.

    I think you'll get more noticeable results with a good muzzle device than you will the buffer.

    You can see in this video that my 14.5" middy is very controllable.


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