Libya, Mogadishu, WTF

[Troublco]

I'm not sure what to make of this whole thing, but this was another interesting twist to the story...

http://patdollard.com/2012/10/breaki...ming-al-qaeda/

[Fmedges]

How credible is this?

[Zundfolge]

More and more I'm convinced that the administration DID organize Benghazi. Yes, I just accused the POTUS of treason.

The simple fact is that there are too many redundancies in place for everyone to have dropped the ball and nobody doing anything to save our ambassador. The ONLY way this happens is if there were orders from on high to "STAND DOWN". Period.

So there's two possible reasons for this (or a combination of the two):

1. The administration has been arming the Muslim Brotherhood and destabilizing the middle east and doing "the lords work" to bring about the Islamic Caliphate. Chris Stevens was in on the whole thing and either was considered a loose end or was going to be a whistle blower so the administration ordered the Muslim Brotherhood to kill him.
2. The administration planned a caper where the Muslim Brotherhood KIDNAPPED ambassador Stevens and then Barry would get to play hero again by ordering SEALs in to rescue the ambassador and this would help Obama get re-elected.

Either way, I blame Obama personally for this fiasco.

[BPTactical]

I will take option 2 for $100.00...

[bogie]

No need for tinfoil. History says that presidents do this sort of thing.

Dogs are smarter than their tails...
if the tails were smarter, the tail would wag the dog

[tmckay2]

A little too paranoid for my tastes, unless you believe 9/11 was a set up by bush too. Sometimes people are just stupid and make bad decisions. Pretty simple really.

[Troublco]

Some people believe everything, others nothing...

The truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.

[Sharpienads]

Broken Arrow was a term used in Vietnam.

Broken Arrow - Radio code for a unit about to be overrun; diverts all Tactical air to support that unit.

Basically all available air assets divert from their current mission to provide CAS. Unless you had someone on the ground that could act as a FAC, air would be totally useless. They would not just show up and start drop ordnance if they did not know the position of friendlies. Keep in mind that Air doesn't work like it does in the movies. If the enemy is 600 meters or closer it is extremely rare that air will be cleared in.

Awesome video. There is nothing quite like feeling the concussion from a bomb. Nice impact angle on that JDAM, too. Must have been from an Air Force pilot... Marines get all confused and discombobulated when you start talking about impact angle degree to mitigate deviation of elevation when using JDAMs . You can drop within 600 meters no problem, it gets approved all the time. Danger close distances are weapon specific. Within danger close might take a little more effort to get approved, but it still happens and is still the same approval authority. From the video, the bomb looked like a GBU-38, 500lb JDAM. Danger close is 185 meters. So 600 meters is way outside of that. 70 meters, however, sounds boner-inducing.

As far as "broken arrow", it is not a brevity term anymore. At least not in a CAS sense.

[Mick-Boy]

More and more I'm convinced that the administration DID organize Benghazi. Yes, I just accused the POTUS of treason.

"You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity" - Robert Heinlein "Logic of Empire"

Please see my earlier post about risk aversion and today's military. People "pass the buck" all the time so they won't be responsible if the situation goes bad.

But hey, believe what you want.

[BushMasterBoy]

I blame the ambassador. If I don't have enough security, I don't move. The ambassador calls the shots for his own safety. I'd tell Hillary to wake up on this one! I scared the hell out her one night in Arkansas...