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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    -more TQs ( I carry at least 4 on my kit)
    -more chest seals
    -ziplocks (various sizes)
    -regular thermomoter (one that doesn't require batteries and can be used in infants/food/etc...)
    -sharpie markers
    -BVM
    -bottled water
    -cold compress
    -hand/foot warmers


    lose the ET tube & IV gear. If you cannot give O2 then you are not trained enough to intubate or stick someone; you'll do more damage than good not to mention the criminal suit to follow.
    I have 4 tourniquets on the loop panel, a bp cuff farther back

    I have 3 chest seals in packaging that can also be used for a chest seal and duct tape, I can improvise probly 15 chest seals out of items in the kit, possibly more. I'll order a pair of HALO's next time I order med gear.

    There are more than a dozen ziplocks used as water proofing thru-out the kit, most are not mentioned. I've corrected this in the original list.

    Suggestions on a specific thermometer? I chose that one for general care, I have no infants. I'm avoiding anything glass due to the rough treatment this may receive.

    Have one sharpie in the kit in the loop panel and one in my left front pocket, intend to pick up a red or green mini one during x mas.

    BVM- please elaborate? They don't even teach to breath for the person anymore.

    Bottles break and leak, I'll be getting lifeboat pouches next time I place an order or park city water bladders when I can find them.

    there are 2 cold compresses already one large stored in the back panel outside of boo boo kit, one medium inside the boo boo kit.

    there are 4 hand/foot warmers in the boo boo kit and 2 mre meal heaters in the personals section.

    ET tube stays and the only IV gear is a 14ga cath needle for chest decompression which also stays. I've stated this before in another thread in response to the comments you have for these type of items, I believe it's better to have it and not need it. They are obviously a last resort. If you want further justification my shooting buddies include an EMT, an OR nurse, a CNA and lots of combat life savers. All have permission to use the items on me if I need it. You won't be able to change my mind on these items.

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    BVM as in valve mask I think.

    EDIT.. nevermind. Comprehension failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulf202 View Post
    ET tube stays and the only IV gear is a 14ga cath needle for chest decompression which also stays. I've stated this before in another thread in response to the comments you have for these type of items, I believe it's better to have it and not need it. They are obviously a last resort. If you want further justification my shooting buddies include an EMT, an OR nurse, a CNA and lots of combat life savers. All have permission to use the items on me if I need it. You won't be able to change my mind on these items.
    Neither of them can or will use either of those items as they are both outside their scope of practice. Wasted space... You're carrying a lawsuit around with you everywhere that bag goes. As long as you are aware of the consequenses; it's your ass. I agree with doing anything to save a family member but people at the range are not your responsibility, especially as YOU are not a trained and licensed provider.

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    I would keep them in there, no harm in having them. I'm assuming that the kit isn't just for the shooting range, and could be part of this guys bug-out/in system.

    The same could be said about the inhaler. If you let someone else use it is that a huge liability? Yep. is it illegal? Yep. Have I ever done that? Yep. (knew the guy personally and knew he had asthma, not something I would do for average Joe, that's what ambulances are for) For that matter carrying a gun is like walking around with a lawsuit if used incorrectly, sometimes even when used correctly, but it could save someone's life. Risk vs. Reward and common sense play big parts here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lead_magnet View Post
    I would keep them in there, no harm in having them. I'm assuming that the kit isn't just for the shooting range, and could be part of this guys bug-out/in system.

    The same could be said about the inhaler. If you let someone else use it is that a huge liability? Yep. is it illegal? Yep. Have I ever done that? Yep. (knew the guy personally and knew he had asthma, not something I would do for average Joe, that's what ambulances are for) For that matter carrying a gun is like walking around with a lawsuit if used incorrectly, sometimes even when used correctly, but it could save someone's life. Risk vs. Reward and common sense play big parts here.
    He doesn't even have a scope & blades to properly place the tube...kind of like carrying a spare magazine with no ammo in it...please tell me the common sense there? He needs to quit trying to be something he's not.

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    Didn't catch the ET tube part, just saw the NPA. Yeah, an ET tube is pretty much useless without the kit. The NPA is realitively harmless, ET tubes are no joke. I wouldn't want to try that, I'd be too afraid of breaking off someones teeth (the dummy we practiced on was toothless, lmao). Decompression needle one might be able to figure out with basic instruction...maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    He doesn't even have a scope & blades to properly place the tube...kind of like carrying a spare magazine with no ammo in it...please tell me the common sense there? He needs to quit trying to be something he's not.
    They're out of my price range and budget currently. There are other uses for an et tube than the hospital setting. I have no problem admitting it is above my pay grade though.

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