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    Take a trip to bass pro for pistol rounds- big, yellow, UMC box of 250 rounds (depending on caliber) ranges from $60-something to $80-something... Just good quality, inexpensive target rounds. For rifles, Cheaperthandirt.com usually has some pretty good deals on ammo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightCat View Post
    Cheapest shit you can find without causing damage to your weapon or excessive malfunctions.
    +1

    There's even an argument out there that cheaper ammo provides a better training experience; with the increased failures you get to practice clearance drills more often. I guess this has merit as long as those failures aren't squibs or detonations.

    PMC Bronze, Remington UMC, Federal AE, and Winchester White Box are all reasonably priced, reasonably reliable, reasonably consistent, and very easy to find. I consider these interchangeable. Magtech gives me more failures than these, but is generally okay. I won't buy A-MERC again.

    Freedom Munitions is a commercial reloader that has a good reputation and is really cheap, I picked up a half case of their 9mm this summer but haven't fired any yet.

    Military Surplus can be a good bargain, but not always. Know whether it uses a corrosive primer and clean accordingly. Check for corroded or damaged rounds. Don't count on it being all that accurate.

    Aluminum- and steel-cased ammo tends to be pretty cheap, but the wisdom of shooting it, particularly in non-commie weapons, is pretty hotly debated. Google it, try it, make your own decision!

    You'll generally get better deals ordering bulk online than buying small amounts retail, but there are exceptions. For big box stores, Murdoch's and JAX have much better prices than Sportsman's Warehouse or Dick's, and they don't get cleared out as fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Cheaperthandirt.com usually has some pretty good deals on ammo.
    Then your mailbox will suddenly overflow with mail order catalogs for beef jerky, cigars, milsurp junk, political candidates....CTD sells your information to EVERYBODY.

    SGAmmo is my current favorite for mail order. Not just for their prices, but for their non-shitty business practices. They ship FAST.
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    This is just my personal opinion on this subject, make sure to get inexpensive ammo and get some good practice with the firearm you will be carrying. After you know your firearm and have a good grasp on the way it handles etc, get the defensive ammunition you will be carrying and take 25-50 rounds to the range just to get acquainted with it. I think its always a good idea to see how you like that ammunition since you will be carrying it. I tried out 185 grain 45 ACP defense rounds and just didn't like them, went back to the 230 grain. Its a personal preference but trying them out influenced my decision a lot. I replace my carry rounds every year and take the old ones to the range to get some practice with them.
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    Reload for what you shoot the most.

    http://www.gun-deals.com/ when shopping for ammunition. You will see http://www.sgammo.com pop up time and time again as one of the lowest price per round vendors. If the price is close, I will normally go with SGAmmo because of their fast shipping and good business practices.

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    For pistol practice: I run a full magazine of my chosen carry ammunition through every single magazine, once when I buy the magazine, to ensure that the pistol-magazine-ammunition combination is reliable. ANY stoppages are a cause for concern. Money permitting, 200 rounds of carry ammo in a single session is probably optimal to ensure reliability.

    After that reliability stress test, I practice with the cheapest that I can find.

    As for what to carry: Google "DocGKR" to find the articles by Dr. Gary K. Roberts, and read them very carefully. You could do a lot worse than to follow his advice.

    I do almost the same thing with AR-15's, but I'll use my TEOTWAWKI ammo for practice beyond 100 yards, since the accuracy and performance difference between that and the dirty nastyass Russian stuff becomes important.

    Along with SG Ammo and AIM Surplus, I also like ammotogo.com and Palmetto State Arms for bulk purchases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IShouldDoThisAllTheTime View Post
    +1

    There's even an argument out there that cheaper ammo provides a better training experience; with the increased failures you get to practice clearance drills more often. I guess this has merit as long as those failures aren't squibs or detonations.

    PMC Bronze, Remington UMC, Federal AE, and Winchester White Box are all reasonably priced, reasonably reliable, reasonably consistent, and very easy to find. I consider these interchangeable. Magtech gives me more failures than these, but is generally okay. I won't buy A-MERC again.

    Freedom Munitions is a commercial reloader that has a good reputation and is really cheap, I picked up a half case of their 9mm this summer but haven't fired any yet.

    Military Surplus can be a good bargain, but not always. Know whether it uses a corrosive primer and clean accordingly. Check for corroded or damaged rounds. Don't count on it being all that accurate.

    Aluminum- and steel-cased ammo tends to be pretty cheap, but the wisdom of shooting it, particularly in non-commie weapons, is pretty hotly debated. Google it, try it, make your own decision!

    You'll generally get better deals ordering bulk online than buying small amounts retail, but there are exceptions. For big box stores, Murdoch's and JAX have much better prices than Sportsman's Warehouse or Dick's, and they don't get cleared out as fast.
    Was wondering if you have shot that Freedom Munitions stuff yet? Any opinions? I was looking to get some in .223 or 5.56 and see how it runs for practice rounds? I'm new to the game so more I can shoot the better. Cheaper the better too.

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    $$$$$ = no
    $ = yes

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    DCF has a good point and I will expand on it to say that even practicing with different ammo than you carry for defense isn't going to make any difference. If you have to actually use the gun in defense the physical and psychological effects going on are going to be so extreme, your body is going to switch over and do exactly what it was trained to do regardless of the recoil difference. This is why the ammo is so irrelevant and the training is.

    Shoot the cheapest stuff that runs.

    Just for the record though, a lot of competition shooters prefer the JHP target bullets like from MT Gold and Zero for two reasons, they have no exposed lead to the powder and because they are a little longer for the same weight. The length gives better/longer contact with the rifling and keeps the bullet from developing wobble. If you're shooting a target at 140 feet from a pistol, it can make a little difference. No exposed lead means less smoke with the cheap and easy double based powders.
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