Well...looks like I got taken. No Police help.

[sniper7]

If this was shipped through USPS, you could probably try to file something with them. it becomes federal with them. they have armed postmasters/investigators that handle these types of things.


I would even consider going so far as to let them know a firearm was shipped to your address when you requested it be shipped to a dealer. you risk involvement that could get the parts taken away though

I would call his local police. they might be more willing to help.

I had a guy try to screw me over when I was a kid. I wanted a R/C truck, found one for sale on a R/C forum. sent the money order, he never sent anything. his local police not only got me the truck, they got me the money as well and he got jail time.

[Bailey Guns]

It's not mail fraud. It's not going to be viewed as a criminal matter. It's a civil issue, pure and simple, no matter how much it sucks.

[Holger Danske]

Has the other guy stopped communicating with you? Perhaps contact him and discuss issues to see if he will try to correct them. Sorry that this was such a bad experience.

[patrick0685]

im going to Phoenix later this month...Ashton you just look like an ass

[Ashton]

Here is the photo he sent me:



which I found is direct off the manufacturers website here:

http://www.rdts.com/HK_Upgrades.html

I will try and get better photos of what I was sent tomorrow but here is one of the ones I have now:

Seems it was a real story it just sounded very vague and weird. My bad. Not a troll.

[Irving]

Seems it was a real story it just sounded very vague and weird. My bad. Not a troll.

This isn't HAI. You will actually run the risk of getting banned.

[spyder]

Rule 1. You need a PO box.
Rule 2. Don't buy a gun unless you've seen it.
Rule 3. Give all the details you can about the transaction.. So even if you can't figure something else none of the rest of us will do business with him.

The crap you say is ridiculous. Also, some of us have made many deals that have all worked out, your advice sucks. Oh, and the troll thing was out of line and makes you look like a jack ass.

It was an HK21

Should have been without the bolt and without the lowers and trigger pack.

So far I am missing most everything but the upper, the lowers (empty), the barrel, and the feed tray.

The agreement included a complete gun minus the lowers and the bolt needed to be replaced. It was also to include 5 belts including ammo.

So...missing basically all the guts and feed mechanisms, belts and ammo.

You have leverage on him. If he shipped you the lower to your house, he shipped a receiver directly to you which needed to go to an FFL. It is a numbered receiver correct? Does the guy live in colorado? If he lives here, it's legal, but if that receiver crossed state lines, the guy could be in deep shit, IE, leverage.


Edit: He lives in Phoenix... Ya, he did a big no no shipping you the lower... LEVERAGE!

[Squeeze]

... My bad. Not a troll.

Damn right "your bad".

[RYAN50BMG]

I don't have any advice on the fraud part, but maybe I can help turn lemons into lemonade. 1. You got the "firearm". On my two HK weapons (SAR8/Vector 51 SBR) the serial #and MFG info are on the mag well. The trigger pack, guts or not, is not the registered part. Is there any MFG info? Building an HK 21 is'nt like slapping together some AR parts, it takes some work and skill. 2. You DO have the base for a nice weapon,but need some small parts, like you said. Bolt, OP rod, complete trigger pack,belt feed mechanism. You do have the (desirable) "club foot" buttstock, BUT the spring/guide rod may not be the right length, which may not let the bolt cycle fully. I have seen this on other 21s. Fraud and douchbaggery aside, I would give Red Dog (RDTS) a call and see what they can do for you.

[RYAN50BMG]

I just want to clear up some terms. On HK guns, the barreled "upper" with mag well is the serial numbered part. The trigger pack "lower" is not. From the OP's pic, no matter what terms you use, he got both. IMHO, this looks like a project that some one could'nt finish, so tried to get as much back as he could. I think chasing after this fucktard may not be worth the time and effort. Chalk it up to "lessons learned" and put the $$ into putting a cool gun together.