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    Fleeing Idaho to get IKEA Bailey Guns's Avatar
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    I wouldn't blame the police for not following up. This sounds very much like a civil issue that you will have to work out in the courts...not a criminal issue. It still sucks. If he hadn't sent you anything, it might be criminal.
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    Difficult to tell from your photo, but what is actually missing to make it a functioning firearm? The bolt and the fire control parts? Anything else?

    Just curious.

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    If the gun went through USPS, wouldn't that constitute mail fraud? You might have a tough time getting it prosecuted, but it makes a pretty good hammer to threaten him with if it applies.

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    This is going to be a tough one, and likely to not be worth the $ or effort your going to put into it. I agree Phoenix is not far, and it might be worthwhile to go down and at least ask why he has not followed through on the deal as specified.

    You can sue him and get a judgement more than likely, but you will need a lot of documentation, starting with the shipped weight of the boxes vs the wieght they would have been had he included all he was supposed to. Then of course all communication between the two of you. Even if you get the judgement, it may take a long and painful road to collect.

    Its interesting though because I just picked up a HK53 in 5.56 that I am going to build back up and was searching around for parts, guess I should be very careful who I deal with. Probably sell mine when its done though, I am more of a AR guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inconel710 View Post
    If the gun went through USPS, wouldn't that constitute mail fraud? You might have a tough time getting it prosecuted, but it makes a pretty good hammer to threaten him with if it applies.
    This - if you mailed the check to him, and/or he mailed the items you did receive via USPS, the seller has committed mail fraud. That's a federal offense - you may want to get the USPS involved.

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    Nah, this is going to be viewed as a civil matter by all LEO.
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    Do a google search about your situation. It falls under mail fraud. And because it crossed state lines, it is a bigger issue. The search will tell you exactly what to do. I would love to link you to the solution , but I'm driving and am entering no cell coverage.

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    This seems to be mail or wire fraud, you may also have recourse through the police in Phoenix especially if they have previous reports on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    So you avoid telling us what type of gun it was, who the seller was, how much it cost but contacted the ATF? Troll.
    this guy has been here 7 years. you have been here under 6 months. way to make yourself look like a dumbass....
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    Sorry man, that sucks. But as the saying goes "Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment."

    I hope you can get it worked out.
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