Well...looks like I got taken. No Police help.

[Ashton]

Since I was kind of a dick in the beginning of this, thought i'd add some helpful information. Whenever I'm buying something online ebay etc I always just run it against google images to make sure it's not a stock image and it's not too good to be true. If you goto google.com click images and simply drag and drop the image from the page into the search box it will look for images that are "visually similar" in this case it brings up several.

https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sb...h=955&biw=1920

If several hits come up well it's probably a stock / fake image and not an image of the real item.

Personally. You couldn't pay me to call the ATF or any other govt agency. Not that I'm doing anything illegal. But I just don't like the attention.

IMHO it doesn't sound like you have any recourse insurance etc that you could get your money back with. At least none I can think of that would work. Sometimes you just have to say a lesson learned is a lesson learned.

Although, you could possibly to the shipping company that parts must have been lost in shipping as they weren't in the box when you got it. But they will probably tell you to take it up with the seller. Unless the box was severely damaged....

[WETWRKS]

Ok, as has been commented on...the upper does have the serial number on this so...he can be in deep trouble for shipping me that. AND I do have email proof that I told him it was to be sent to an FFL.

Here is what actually showed up:



As I have been told, this is what all I should have:



Some of it is assembled into the parts I have, some isn't there at all. I am also missing the belts and ammo.

[spyder]

Is that an actual Hk receiver?

You can just send him this in your next email to him:

2. May I lawfully transfer a firearm to a friend who resides in a different State?
Under Federal law, an unlicensed individual is prohibited from transferring a firearm to an individual who does not reside in the State where the transferee resides. Generally, for a person to lawfully transfer a firearm to an unlicensed person who resides out of State, the firearm must be shipped to a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) within the recipient’s State of residence. He or she may then receive the firearm from the FFL upon completion of an ATF Form 4473 and a NICS background check. More information can be obtained on the ATF website at www.atf.gov and http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html. The GCA provides an exception from this prohibition for temporary loans or rentals of firearms for lawful sporting purposes. Thus, for example, a friend visiting you may borrow a firearm from you to go hunting. Another exception is provided for transfers of firearms to nonresidents to carry out a lawful bequest or acquisition by intestate succession. This exception would authorize the transfer of a firearm to a nonresident who inherits a firearm under the will of a decedent. See 18 U.S.C. 922(a)(5).

[WETWRKS]

Is that an actual Hk receiver?

I don't know how to tell. It is marked HK21EUG on the side. The top has the serial number marked S.N. BO225. And inside the feed area it has RDTS and their info.

[spyder]

I don't know how to tell. It is marked HK21EUG on the side. The top has the serial number marked S.N. BO225. And inside the feed area it has RDTS and their info.

Oh, damn... I was gona say, you could easily make your money back if it was... Anyway, at this point if he is being a dick, I would be a dick back and tell him that unless he complies with the original offer, you're gona turn him in, pretty simple... He not only committed a crime, he committed a federal crime. Or, just turn his ass in.

Edit:
I would actually (after thinking about it) tell him he needs to send you your money back, and you will send him his parts back (through an FFL)... You knowingly kept the receiver... Or, just turn him in and file a police report about an illegal firearm transfer. I don't know if the police will deal with that, but I'm guessing that someone here has the number of one of the local ATF agents that would be glad to help you out.

[Ashton]

good luck.

[BuffCyclist]

Oh, damn... I was gona say, you could easily make your money back if it was... Anyway, at this point if he is being a dick, I would be a dick back and tell him that unless he complies with the original offer, you're gona turn him in, pretty simple... He not only committed a crime, he committed a federal crime. Or, just turn his ass in.

Edit:
I would actually (after thinking about it) tell him he needs to send you your money back, and you will send him his parts back (through an FFL)... You knowingly kept the receiver... Or, just turn him in and file a police report about an illegal firearm transfer. I don't know if the police will deal with that, but I'm guessing that someone here has the number of one of the local ATF agents that would be glad to help you out.

This. If he sent you a receiver, whether it is functioning or not, he committed a felony. Did you notice that the second pic isn't the correct stock even, so thats another photo that he stole from somewhere.

Demand your money back immediately, sending him the snippet that Spyder posted about illegal transfers and threatening to turn him in. Then, after you get your money back, call the local friendly ATF and give them the entire story. They may prefer to just come pickup the parts/firearm as it was illegally transferred, hard to say (though I have heard of the ATF confiscating firearms before under similar situations).

Either way, you may be out of your money if he doesn't send it, but at least you won't be going to federal-pound-me-in-the-ass prison. And thats a good thing.

[BlasterBob]

If you make it known that someone has violated the law and you indicate that unless he does something or gives you something, you will turn him in to the LEO. Could this possibly be considered as a form of "blackmail"??
Just wondering.

[Squeeze]

Wow, this is quite the can of worms. Not sure how much money you are out in comparison to the items you did receive...but regardless it sounds like this knuckle head that sent you the items stepped on his crank big time. I guess it all boils down to how much effort you really want to put into making this "right".

If I were in your shoes (which I wish I were - as to own an HK21 is oozing with awesomeness) I would want to make this right with the seller first, but it seems like you've exhausted every effort to do so...that being said, now it's a matter of how much of a monetary loss I'd be willing to swallow. Best of luck and definitely sorry to hear about the trouble.

[Bailey Guns]

Another problem is, now you've knowingly received a firearm in violation of federal law and haven't reported it. (Assuming, in fact, what he sent is an actual "firearm")

In addition, you've admitted to such all over the internet.

Yeah...big can of worms.