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    ^ what wulf said.. I think the majority of American workers don't realize how much Ocare is going to increase the inflation while the job and income growth have been playing catchup since the early 90s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    I'm not saying Bush didn't do some bad things for our economy... sure we probably shouldn't have gone into Iraq, but I do agree with our reasons and mission in Afghanistan, and think Bush had no choice there. Dems keep blaming Reaganomics when that is simply not the case- it goes back further (FDR!!!), our presidents past wrote a check that 60-90 years later would catch up to them (I'm talking about SS, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare) once they became overburdened... and we're reaching capacity now. It's been said by experts for about six years now, we probably need to slim down or outright kill one of these sacred cows in order to prevent further economic turmoil. But Obama will never be that president to head the sacrifice. Too many rely on government handouts, when it's been said repeatedly, the private sector might actually do better with this job than the Feds.

    Like Byte said... Let's eat the rich! They'll just roll over and take it, they don't have the balls to jump ship...
    I have no problems with Afghan. One of the many drops in the bucket that made me change from supporting Bush to not was how he handled that like he did not give a shit. And yes it goes back to FDR. The period from FDR till Reagan was a time when Liberal economics ruled. Then Reagan came along and rewrote damn near all the rules. You have a before and after over a 40 year period for both. Well there is no debate the hard numbers show that we did worse post Reagan.

    And if the rich want to leave the US... GOOD... GTFO it will make more opportunities for hard workers to take over. That happened after the Revolutionary War and America was better off for it. Don't cower anytime one of those pompous douche bags tries to scare you.

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    What have you not been paying attention, garbage like that has been happening as long as I can remember. Healthcare costs going through the roof and the companies making you pay more of a deductible or premium... raise? WTF is that?

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    ^^ No clue about economics. Post revolutionary war economy was so bad that the US practically stop trading w/ the traditional European partners due to The British embargo/blockade. New market in the far east opened up, the US exported fur and wood products to China. In the 21st century, there is no new market. Rich people does not equal large corporations which is backed by the current administration. If you are telling me that Obama is willing to let AIG, GE, JP Morgan etc to fall apart w/o bailout, then yes I agree with you. It will opens up opportunity to the workers and fresh ups when the market bottom out. The truth is, Democrats are as guilty if not worse when it comes to large corporations. You sir are speaking out of you ass.
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    I agree both sides are guilty. I just don't pee myself when some rich traitor threatens to leave America. If he wants to go...GTFO I won't beg for him to stay by coddling him.

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    Noone asked you to beg. The fact remains the same, for a govt to make life such a living hell for a portion of the population is unacceptable. To make the more important portion (the job creators) to leave is exactly what the communists, socialists, and fascists have done in the past. Despite your personal opinion, the US needs these folks and the workers are NOT better with out them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
    Noone asked you to beg. The fact remains the same, for a govt to make life such a living hell for a portion of the population is unacceptable. To make the more important portion (the job creators) to leave is exactly what the communists, socialists, and fascists have done in the past. Despite your personal opinion, the US needs these folks and the workers are NOT better with out them.
    A living hell? Are you kidding me. ALL the increases in earnings over the last few decades went to them. You got NOTHIN and you want to worry about them? They are not job creators, they are job horders. They offshored this nation for their personal gain. The people who are job creators are YOU and I. Our DEMAND drives the economy and when we don't have money to buy jack shit the economy goes tits up..... Like NOW

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    Municipal budgets expected to see 9% increases in health care premium costs due to Obamacare as it continues to fail and fail so badly that our economy continues to lag in the doldrums and a recession looms.
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    Return to the average taxrates from 1940 till Reagan and we would be in a surplus over night and have our debt paid off in a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    Return to the average taxrates from 1940 till Reagan and we would be in a surplus over night and have our debt paid off in a few years.
    False.

    If you look at this chart, you'll see that the Federal revenue has always averaged around 17% of GDP (third column from right) even in those periods of this magic unicorn dust tax rates before the Reagan tax reform. Because the nominally higher tax rates applied to less income due to all of the available deductions then current.

    nynco just makes up stuff.
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