F**K everyone that voted for ocare

[spqrzilla]

In fact, nynco is amazingly reliable. If nynco makes a factual statement, it about guaranteed to be false.

[Ronin13]

I agree both sides are guilty. I just don't pee myself when some rich traitor threatens to leave America. If he wants to go...GTFO I won't beg for him to stay by coddling him.

You call them traitors, but guess what- THEY'RE THE ASSHOLES GIVING THE TAKERS ALL THEIR FREE SHIT! They're the ones who create the jobs, they're the ones who invest in ideas, businesses, and people. They also happen to be the ones that pretty much ensure that most charitable organizations still exist- or did you forget that those greedy, rich, white guys who make sure that the American offices for those premium automakers stay open actually do give to charity? How many very wealthy people do you know? I know quite a few... Some of them are our very best clients and we're in business because of them. Careful what you wish for comrade...

[nynco]

Giving? So now someone who works for a job is a taker? Rich people don't create jobs because they benevolent or because they are charitable. Hell NO, they do it because there is DEMAND for something and if there is a way for them to make more money by hiring someone, they will. YOU AND I are the people who drive demand to create jobs. Since the wealthy have been hording all the increases in wealth (productivity gains), the demand dropped off. They powers that be hid that economic collapse by making credit cheap. So we never saw the drop in wages till the crash of credit. You guys are off in la la land if you think the rich are job creators. It stands your whole free market theory on its head.

[spqrzilla]

I never got hired by a poor man, nynco. You only reinforce your lack of credibility with the silly stuff you write.

[nynco]

No but you have been hired by many middle class and small business men. My point still stands. NO ONE WILL EVER HIRE ANYONE IF THERE IS NO DEMAND FOR A PRODUCT OR SERVICE. No rich guy will ever hire a person unless there is demand. We the buyers create demand.

[spqrzilla]

Man, nynco collects a couple of unemployment checks and thinks he's an entrepreneur.

[nynco]

When you got nothing this is all you can do in reply. Just too stuborn to admit that I am right.

[palepainter]

[Aloha_Shooter]

There will be far fewer middle class and small businessmen hiring in the wake of the idiotic economic measure Obama proposed and nynco supported. I'm worried for my friends who will find their hours reduced (or eliminated) so the middle class and small businessmen that still exist take the measures they need to in order to stay in business. No one will hire anyone if their costs to do so exceed what they will get from that labor -- having buyers for a $5 item doesn't help if that item costs $6 to produce.

The issue isn't people working for a living. The issue is people who AREN'T working and don't want to work. The issue is people demanding pay and benefits for their work that exceeds the economic value of that work. The issue is government spending more than it takes in. Reaganomics increased the flow of capital through the private sector AND increased tax revenues collected by the federal government but was unacceptable to those Marxists who think all money belongs to the government and people should only be allowed to keep what's "fair" (you can see this atttitude in one of Obama's speeches in his first year in office BTW). The problem was that Tip O'Neill increased spending by nearly twice as much as Reagan took in. Bush the Younger spent far more than he should have but his restoration of Reagan-level tax rates increased tax revenues collected and stabilized a national economy rocked by indecision after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The problem was it didn't hold a candle to what Pelosi and Reid conspired to spend after winning control in 2006.

Glad I'm not on whatever it is nynco is ingesting ... I probably wouldn't be allowed to drive my car to work if I was.

[spqrzilla]

When you got nothing this is all you can do in reply. Just too stuborn to admit that I am right.

I've refuted many of your brazenly false claims. You've wandered off to just make up more fabrications and abandon the ones that were shown to be false.

I got bored with the predictability of your many false statements.