Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
1. If you believe so much in socialized government-provided medicine, serve a few tours in the military. It took me three years and four orthopedic surgeons to get my torn rotator cuff repaired. My "sprained" ankle from 20+ years never was fully healed.

2. There was only one Great Depression despite what the left-wing propaganda spews. The Great Recession of 2008 was created by government intrusion in the marketplace, specifically the Community Reinvestment Act and aggressive enforcement of it under the Clinton administration spurred by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. This recession was NOT the worst since the Great Depression in 2008 as it was then exceeded by the Carter Recession of 1979-1982 (unemployment + interest rates) until this recession was exacerbated and prolonged by Obama's policies. It doesn't much matter whether we are in a double-dip or triple-dip recession (if you believe economists claiming an imperceptible recovery in 2010) or still in one long one.

Please cite where non-emergency federal expenditures on healthcare, education, housing, etc. are authorized under the Constitution (and don't give me any weak sauce about the "general welfare" clause either as "promote the general welfare" is in the preamble, not in any article of authorization or amendment).

History has shown repeatedly that these Stalinist-Maoist government-centric systems never work out economically in the long run. The British NHS was virtually bankrupt and pushing British doctors to come to America before free market reforms were put in place. European governments are still trying to figure out how to have their cake and eat it too. Oil in the North Sea is the one main reason Norway has been able to maintain its current socialized healthcare system. Try it without the deus ex machina of a huge natural resource influx or sudden industry boom like the Internet in the early/mid-1990s.

The uneducated were scammed by Obama's "free stuff" promises, the unapologetic liberals didn't care about the truth or economic realities ... and of course there're people in both categories like at least one troll in this forum. I said before the election that there were three reasons for voting for Obama in 2012: 1) you were asleep for the last 3.5 years, 2) you're an unapologetic die-hard Marxist or 3) you're dumber than a box of Rice Krispies (well, I said something more politically incorrect and offensive than this but with the same intent). I stand by that statement.
I will address by your number system.
1. Soft tissue joint injuries are impossible to fix. You think you would have gotten a better result in the private sector? Where you had to PAY? Ha ha ha... Be realistic about your recovery. I tell everyone that is younger, once you pop it, thats it, it will keep on popping. Esp shoulders. Once your shoulder starts to dislocate it will only get worse. Start working out and pray your muscles can make up for your soft tissue damage. So don't blame the VA for that.

2. You got to be kidding me if you think the melt down was caused by gov intrusion. It happened because we deregulated the banks. We took off Glass Steigel and the banks went looking for suckers. Had we kept the reforms of Roosevelt which the GOP were creaming their pants to deregulate. NONE of that would have been permitted to happen. The Great Recession would have been worse had we not spent our way out of it to reboot the collapse. Even then, it was not enough. But it helped. Carter... you really want to bring that up. Well Carter did better than BUSH. News flash we will be in bad economic times till we start to fix the mess that started with Reagan.

Sub part about non emergency healthcare what ever. So what did Obama care do? It FORCED the states to create a healthcare exchange and then subsidizes those who can't afford it. That is the CONSERVATIVE MODEL for healthcare reform that you guys put forward for the last 50 years. Obama is a moderate republican in action, you would know that if you studied history and stopped listening to the right wing garbage called news.

Don't bring up Britain. That well was poisoned by Thatcher. Look at Germany, Norway, Denmark. Fuck Britain

The uneducated were scammed by Obamas free stuff. Well what free stuff was that. I would say the only people that were scammed are the ones who watch Faux news everyday.

I am not a marxist you NAZI... see nazi is a vile thing to say. So don't go around calling me something I am not. Got it?