F**K everyone that voted for ocare

[brutal]

Sorry don't agree with your premise at all. I believe in civilization. The way of thinking "No one has a Right to receive anything from anyone." thankfully went out with the dark ages. Honestly, if you extremists which you are an extremist if you believe that the gov should do nothing but military, want to secede, I am all for it. I am sick of fighting these never ending battles where we keep on repeating the mistakes of the past. 2 republican great depressions each preceded by deregulation and massive tax cuts for the wealthy. But nooo its all because of the welfare poor. We have over 100 years of data of what works and what does not. There is no debate, the right wing model for economics has failed and you guys still cling to it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhart...vote-democrat/

• Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents
• Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents
• Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)
• Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)
• Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents
• The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations

So when the Dems inherit shit from their predecessor, it's Bush's fault, but when they inherit prosperity, they did it all on their own.

Brilliant.

[speedysst]

[QUOTE=nynco;731659]Sorry don't agree with your premise at all. I believe in civilization. The way of thinking "No one has a Right to receive anything from anyone." thankfully went out with the dark ages. Honestly, if you extremists which you are an extremist if you believe that the gov should do nothing but military, want to secede, I am all for it. I am sick of fighting these never ending battles where we keep on repeating the mistakes of the past. 2 republican great depressions each preceded by deregulation and massive tax cuts for the wealthy. But nooo its all because of the welfare poor. We have over 100 years of data of what works and what does not. There is no debate, the right wing model for economics has failed and you guys still cling to it.

Well, from my observations of the last 4 years, your left wing model for economics isn't working so hot either. So....

[Bailey Guns]

If you voted for Obama, you're my enemy.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

If you voted for Obama, you're my enemy.

This, and an enemy to the United States.

[spqrzilla]

I am sick of fighting these never ending battles where we keep on repeating the mistakes of the past. 2 republican great depressions each preceded by deregulation and massive tax cuts for the wealthy.


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• The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations

More of your brazen lies, nynco. Or ignorance, its hard to tell which because of your incompetence. There was no "massive" tax cut for the wealthy in either case. The Bush era tax rates reduced taxation for all taxpayers. If that wasn't so, why is it that the Democrats don't want to just see it entirely expire at the end of the year?

And there was no deregulation by the G.W. Bush administration. The idea that G.W. Bush was laissez faire is outright ridiculous. For your information, the Federal Register didn't cease publication from 2001 to 2009. Democrats often falsely blame the repeal of Glass-Steagal for the financial crisis, but that was pushed by the Clinton administration.

You just keep making stuff up. Dishonest or utterly uninformed, its become a bore to try to figure out.

[Aloha_Shooter]

1. If you believe so much in socialized government-provided medicine, serve a few tours in the military. It took me three years and four orthopedic surgeons to get my torn rotator cuff repaired. My "sprained" ankle from 20+ years never was fully healed.

2. There was only one Great Depression despite what the left-wing propaganda spews. The Great Recession of 2008 was created by government intrusion in the marketplace, specifically the Community Reinvestment Act and aggressive enforcement of it under the Clinton administration spurred by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. This recession was NOT the worst since the Great Depression in 2008 as it was then exceeded by the Carter Recession of 1979-1982 (unemployment + interest rates) until this recession was exacerbated and prolonged by Obama's policies. It doesn't much matter whether we are in a double-dip or triple-dip recession (if you believe economists claiming an imperceptible recovery in 2010) or still in one long one.

Please cite where non-emergency federal expenditures on healthcare, education, housing, etc. are authorized under the Constitution (and don't give me any weak sauce about the "general welfare" clause either as "promote the general welfare" is in the preamble, not in any article of authorization or amendment).

History has shown repeatedly that these Stalinist-Maoist government-centric systems never work out economically in the long run. The British NHS was virtually bankrupt and pushing British doctors to come to America before free market reforms were put in place. European governments are still trying to figure out how to have their cake and eat it too. Oil in the North Sea is the one main reason Norway has been able to maintain its current socialized healthcare system. Try it without the deus ex machina of a huge natural resource influx or sudden industry boom like the Internet in the early/mid-1990s.

The uneducated were scammed by Obama's "free stuff" promises, the unapologetic liberals didn't care about the truth or economic realities ... and of course there're people in both categories like at least one troll in this forum. I said before the election that there were three reasons for voting for Obama in 2012: 1) you were asleep for the last 3.5 years, 2) you're an unapologetic die-hard Marxist or 3) you're dumber than a box of Rice Krispies (well, I said something more politically incorrect and offensive than this but with the same intent). I stand by that statement.

[dwalker460]

http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/comme...oochers-the-47

"The Tax Foundation unequivocally states, "Nine of the ten states with the largest percentage of nonpayers are in the South and Southwest. In Mississippi, 45 percent of federal tax returns remit nothing or receive money with their federal tax returns; that is the highest percentage nationally. Georgia is next at 41 percent, followed by Arkansas at 41 percent, and Alabama, South Carolina,"

Ahhh yeah, those states are RED and made up of people who believe in paying their share and not a penny more. As a Tennessee hilljack, let me tell you that we paid our taxes, but you bet your ass we wanted the money we did not owe the government back. If I had my way we would not have our taxes pulled out of our paycheck, just pay them quarterly or annually.

[nynco]

Even when the Dems inherent the pile of crap the conservatives leave, they still do better. Just goes to show you. You hand the conservatives a working economy and in no time they tank it. Hand the "liberals" (really moderate conservatives in the Democrap party) the pile of crap and they fix it.

[nynco]

Ahhh yeah, those states are RED and made up of people who believe in paying their share and not a penny more. As a Tennessee hilljack, let me tell you that we paid our taxes, but you bet your ass we wanted the money we did not owe the government back. If I had my way we would not have our taxes pulled out of our paycheck, just pay them quarterly or annually.

Yeah those red states talk a good game and then suck on the gov tit more than anyone else. Then to top it all off they support politicians that hate gov and vow to destroy it. Talk about biting the hand that feeds. If we went back to the wet dream that you guys envision that is nothing more than The Articles of Confederation all over (which failed) the red states would look like Somalia. Which some of them are not far off once you get into the back woods.

[Byte Stryke]

Umm The republic of Texas has a stronger economy on its own than 95% of the world... its ranked 14th in the WORLD.
Next time you are drooling over rifles and handguns, I suggest you look into where they are made.
we make F22s and Glocks within 4 miles of my residence in Smyrna GA.

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