Romney...

[Pancho Villa]

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I was surprised at how heavy of a role the social conservative element played at caucus. I mean, really? We have record unemployment and the biggest concern is so-called "moral issues?"

Fiscal cons should take a page from the social cons, actually. And the gun lobby.

How you gain power in a political party is to show willingness to stay home if your guy isn't good enough. The social cons did it in the 80s and now despite being a minority wing of the party they are absolutely pandered to every election for fear of them staying home. Gun folks did it after '94 and now guns ae almost as much a 3rd rail in politics as SS.

The GOP knows that fiscal cons are like a beaten wife and will always come back no matter how little they actually do on that front, so why pander to them? It's like black voters in the democratic party. They're already voting for you, so why do anything for them?

[wrestler034]

The real key is when this mentality stops:

Well Ashton, your part of the reason he DIDNT get voted in.

Thanks a ton for this BS that we are about to have come down on us.

and people start voting based upon what the individual candidates are saying/stand for, not the little letter at the end of their name. Until then, the R's have no reason to listen to what the people want. Staying home is not the answer. Voting for the candidate YOU feel is best is. Voting for a letter will not solve our problems.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Fiscal cons should take a page from the social cons, actually. And the gun lobby.

How you gain power in a political party is to show willingness to stay home if your guy isn't good enough. The social cons did it in the 80s and now despite being a minority wing of the party they are absolutely pandered to every election for fear of them staying home. Gun folks did it after '94 and now guns ae almost as much a 3rd rail in politics as SS.

Mmmm ... no. Social cons gained power because they GOT people to the polls. Gun lobby gained power after the NRA got pro-gun people to the polls and influenced the 1994 Congressional campaign. The Tea Party gained influence (however briefly) because it got people to the polls two years ago.

Staying home just cuts your nose off to spite your face. Mourdock was defeated in Indiana by Lugar supporters crossing over just to spite him -- in essence, by NOT caring about the little letter after his name.

[ronaldrwl]

Are you fucking serious? Romney is not a crook, he is a business man and a standup member of his Church.

He DID NOT draw a salary as Governor, nor as head of the Olympic committee because he had the fucking nuts to do the RIGHT thing and say hey guys, I dont need the money, I have plenty, so dont take taxpayer money to pay me for doing my civic duty. Find a politician who would do that.

Romney could not be bought, unlike Obaloney and Johnson, who IS a fucking crook, How much do you actually know about Governor Veto other than that he "is different than the rest?" Sheep

Romney was the only candidate on either side that stood a snowballs chance in hell of doing what the country fiscally needed, and its dumbasses out there who have no clue about issues, or history, or anything else besides campaign slogans that puked this election up. Seriously the only fault I can find with Romeny is he didnt hit Obaloney where it would hurt the most, and he ran too clean. He should have used all the dirt he had on that sonofabitch and then some. But he didnt because he is a man and has morals and principles, which obviously counts for little in this country now.

I did not agree with everything Romeny said but I rarely agree with anything anyone says, but the fact the man could do the job and do it right and be good for the Country is what mattered, not that I think his stance on guns was weak, or whatever.

Seriously kids, its time to wake up and become educated beyond the smoke and mirrors.

Gary Johnson my ass. He is not even a pimple on the ass of Romney, and he COULD NOT do the job. Period.

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[ronaldrwl]

More so now that the chains are off and O doesn't have to worry about the reelection bid. Make no mistake about it, it's going to get nasty fellas.

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[ronaldrwl]

The "noble experiment" has come to an end. It didn't work because the people, in general terms, we're too lazy to make it work.

I've never felt such utter despair. I'm not even angry. I'm just devastated. I can't believe the country I grew up to love so much, has come down to this.

"Obamaphones" have won out over liberty. I really don't see a way off the path that we're now on.

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Utter despair is right. I can't even form my own words today.

[Aloha_Shooter]

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Utter despair is right. I can't even form my own words today.

Don't despair. That way lies the path of further loss.

Now remember, things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. 'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is.

[Pancho Villa]

Mmmm ... no. Social cons gained power because they GOT people to the polls. Gun lobby gained power after the NRA got pro-gun people to the polls and influenced the 1994 Congressional campaign. The Tea Party gained influence (however briefly) because it got people to the polls two years ago.

Staying home just cuts your nose off to spite your face. Mourdock was defeated in Indiana by Lugar supporters crossing over just to spite him -- in essence, by NOT caring about the little letter after his name.

It was a combo. Show up big in primaries, threaten to not show up in the general.

Gun folks also did this in the 90s, if you rememebr your history.

[U81I812]

Once you have more takers than producers it's over.

We'll never see another Republican President in our life time, we can never out vote the takers.

[ronaldrwl]

Once you have more takers than producers it's over.

We'll never see another Republican President in our life time, we can never out vote the takers.

Maybe, but for sure we'll never see another president with traditional values (conservative).