Romney...

[HoneyBadger]

Hey look at this wonderful economic collapse all around us, good luck feeding yourself, but fuck it, go get pregnant and don't worry because you can still get an abortion! People are so fucking stupid.

[Bailey Guns]

Maybe, but for sure we'll never see another president with traditional values (conservative).

This is an absolute fact, in my opinion. A lot of you guys think Romney wasn't conservative enough. You've just witnessed the movement of the republican party even further to the left. And if you thought 3rd party candidates were irrelevant before, you ain't seen nothing yet.

3rd party candidates will just become a novelty now. Conservative Americans are a minority. There aren't enough to overcome the liberals (more specifically, those that will vote for dems/libs) and their numbers are just going to grow.

[Ridge]

Are you fucking serious? Romney is not a crook, he is a business man and a standup member of his Church.

Being a crook and being a member of a church aren't really exclusive, you know...

3rd party candidates will just become a novelty now.

Gary Johnson took 1% of the vote. With no media exposure, being barred from the debates, nothing. And, like you said, the GOP is moving. I don't think it's left, though. They are getting too far fringe. Maybe people want fiscal conservative beliefs, but they don't feel that religious morals from a religion they aren't a part of should dictate how they live their lives? Eventually the GOP is going to go too far, and there will be a sizable enough gap in representation for a third party candidate to rise as a viable alternative.

[T-Giv]

In case you guys aren't sick of me saying this yet:

When the average voter can vote themselves more free things at the expense of someone they'll never meet, why wouldn't they?

THIS. We can close the thread now just based on this. Discussion overrr.

[Rooskibar03]

Are you fucking serious? Romney is not a crook, he is a business man and a standup member of his Church.

He DID NOT draw a salary as Governor, nor as head of the Olympic committee because he had the fucking nuts to do the RIGHT thing and say hey guys, I dont need the money, I have plenty, so dont take taxpayer money to pay me for doing my civic duty. Find a politician who would do that.

Romney could not be bought, unlike Obaloney and Johnson, who IS a fucking crook, How much do you actually know about Governor Veto other than that he "is different than the rest?" Sheep

Romney was the only candidate on either side that stood a snowballs chance in hell of doing what the country fiscally needed, and its dumbasses out there who have no clue about issues, or history, or anything else besides campaign slogans that puked this election up. Seriously the only fault I can find with Romeny is he didnt hit Obaloney where it would hurt the most, and he ran too clean. He should have used all the dirt he had on that sonofabitch and then some. But he didnt because he is a man and has morals and principles, which obviously counts for little in this country now.

I did not agree with everything Romeny said but I rarely agree with anything anyone says, but the fact the man could do the job and do it right and be good for the Country is what mattered, not that I think his stance on guns was weak, or whatever.

Seriously kids, its time to wake up and become educated beyond the smoke and mirrors.

Gary Johnson my ass. He is not even a pimple on the ass of Romney, and he COULD NOT do the job. Period.

[spqrzilla]

And, like you said, the GOP is moving. I don't think it's left, though. They are getting too far fringe. Maybe people want fiscal conservative beliefs, but they don't feel that religious morals from a religion they aren't a part of should dictate how they live their lives? Eventually the GOP is going to go too far, and there will be a sizable enough gap in representation for a third party candidate to rise as a viable alternative.

The past two election cycles the GOP nominated McCain and Romney, neither of which were "fringe", neither of which were right wing at all.

So why do you write the comment above that makes it appear you have no clue what McCain or Romney were about as candidates?

By the way, Obama barely won in actuality. He lost 10 million of his '08 voters. If Romney had kept all the McCain 08 voters, he would have won.

[Ridge]

What does it say about the GOP's candidates that, despite Obama's shitty job the past 4 years, he still beat them?

[Aloha_Shooter]

What does it say about the GOP's candidates that, despite Obama's shitty job the past 4 years, he still beat them?

Obama has done nothing in his life BUT prey on and take advantage of people's emotions. He's good at it. I am no fan of McCain's but the man had an impossible job in 2008 -- there was no way any Republican was going to beat him. This past year, Obama had all the normal advantages of being an incumbent (there ARE advantages despite his horrible performance), media coverage that might as well been part of his paid PR team and luck in how two hurricanes came through: one that cut short and diverted attention from the GOP convention and one that gave him a chance to look presidential just before the actual election.

The GOP would have done well to have had ground game set up for the past 3 years like Obama did and hammered his unpresidential performance all year, crafting messages for his base, but I wouldn't say this loss says something about the GOP's candidates.

[Irving]

Maybe people want fiscal conservative beliefs, but they don't feel that religious morals from a religion they aren't a part of should dictate how they live their lives?

This is the real crux of the issue.

[HoneyBadger]

Maybe people want fiscal conservative beliefs, but they don't feel that religious morals from a religion they aren't a part of should dictate how they live their lives?

You must be aware that this is basically the libertarian party's platform, right? I don't understand why it doesn't have more traction.. Who doesn't want more liberty and a strong free market economy? Lots of people, apparantly...