Quote Originally Posted by battle_sight_zero View Post


I appreciate your comments, however I feel that the Obama and his party have offended me and my values for the last 4 years. I suspect that the assault will only get worse. I don't support Obama care which I feel is an assault on my values. I don't support the killing of innocent unborn babies which was made into a big issue and i found offensive. I find it offensive that have lost allot of money these last 4 years in my retirement accounts. I find it offensive that my salary has not gone up in the last 4 years. I find it offensive that that my I an my kids will be paying for this nations debts while a good chunk of the population who voted for Obama sit on their butts every day on the governments handout. I find it offensive that I and people like me the ones working and paying taxes are critiziced for being who we are. I find it offensive that the other side criticises business owners for building a business. I find it offensive that we have a corrupt media covering for the other side. I find offensive as a vet to see service men and woman being told that they need to lose health care and other benifits. I find it offensive that the other side wants to decimate the tradion of the military. Tell me Pancho why the bleep should I and other conservatives compromise when the other party does not? My values I feel are shared by a good chunk of the population who does not sit around or squander their potential. I have served my country and i serve my community everyday and I Damm well entilted to be offended by the other side. Personally I feel that we can still get some satisfaction the next couple of years by hold politicians accountable. I am going to use what influence I have to do something. We all have influence, let's use it.

I don't want you guys to compromise on taxes, the deficit, etc. Which you already do in spades. Romney's plan was to grow the budget a little less fast than Obama, and given some of the things he advocated (700 billion medicare increase, for example,) I highly suspect that was just a lie tossed out to fiscal cons to keep them from just saying fuck it and staying home again.

When your God puts a soul into a body is, well, a theological issue and one that is highly disinteresting to me. It goes from disinteresting theological passtime to a black mark when you start trying to impose whatever theological hash you guys end up deciding on, on people who disagree with it or who don't believe in your God, which is an increasing number of people in this country.

Like I said in another thread, I'm all on board with balancing the budget, cutting taxes, drastically simplifying the tax code, removing regulations, repealing Obamacare in it's entirety, instating free-market reforms of our drastically overegulated medical industry, etc. Romney wanted to do none of that except maybe cut a few regulations. He couldn't even propose going back to spending levels under Bush - which were already way too much - but settled on "Under my plan, the growth of government will slow down a little and if we're lucky and the economy grows at a ridiculous pace, the budget will balance itself in 20 years!"

We were still going head-first over a cliff with Romney. At least now when Obama's disastrous policies result in an American lost decade the Ds will get credit for it, and maybe the GOP can put forth someone who's fiscally serious instead of a joke, and I can actually hold my nose and vote for him.

Seriously, guys. Look at the numbers. Until you get a candidate who can run on balancing the budget, drastically cutting SS, medicare, medicaid and (yes, sorry guys, I'm not a fan of this either) the military, we're going to be chugging headlong towards that fiscal cliff. Together, welfare spending and the military constitute almost 90% of the federal budget in a given year. There's nothing else to cut from that makes a difference, and don't make mistakes, bullshit accounting tricks like decreasing the rate of growth won't cut it.

The good news is, gravity has a way of asserting itself, and we'll have a balanced budget one way or another. The bad news is, it will probably be balanced (at first) by either inflation or draconian taxation (whether it's a D or R in office, neither side is interested in serious cuts.)

Quit acting like this was the final chance to get things right. Romney wasn't getting anything right.