BATFE Form 4473 vs. CO Amendment 64

[cysoto]

I work at a "newish" gun shop in Denver called Shooter Ready. In the past few months we have had a couple of MMJ card holders who have willingly disclosed that they are cannabis users at which point we can no longer proceed with the sale of the firearm.

In one case, the gentleman disclosed his "medical" status after his 4473 had been approved by CBI but before he had paid for the gun so we couldn't legally accept payment nor release the gun.

Yes, it is possible that this person may have been an ATF agent posing as a buyer but we are not willing to jeopardize our FFL to find out. It is best to lose the sale than the lose our license.

[cysoto]

Hair sampling is the new norm...

At my age, with as little hair as I have left, I don't want to part with any of of it.

[buckshotbarlow]

i don't know man, i need some doritos and brownies. Anyone want to make a run to tacobell?

A wise man

[spyder]

We (our class) got to talk to (I forgot both their names, but they were nice women) a couple ATF agents from here in Colorado last week. This question came up, and they said "it's still illegal on a federal level, and a federal crime to lie on the form, or sell to someone you know smokes marajuana." They weren't smiling when they said this either.

[Great-Kazoo]

At my age, with as little hair as I have left, I don't want to part with any of of it.

You have enough, you can part it!. Lucky guy.

[james_bond_007]

...Raise your hand if you've ever had a hair sample drug test...

Certain types of "government clearance" positions require it.
As well as full financial disclosures, background investigations of family and in-laws, friends and acquaintances for many years, etc.

It is NOT just something you see in the movies.

...enough said.

[james_bond_007]

Simple answer, do away with form 4473.

I'd be more concerned with an alcoholic neighbor (legal), then a pothead neighbor (illegal).

I'd be concerned with BOTH...

Recipe for Federal Penn Cocktail:

Take
1 drink too many (or 1 joint too many)
1 firearms owner
Add a bad temper and and some innocent people
Mix together well.
Chase with a tall police officer.

Pour into a prison cell.
Wait 5-10 years.

[Irving]

or sell to someone you know smokes marajuana."

I'd like to see a law that says this. A person to person transaction is not restricted by the 4473 form. What are the restrictions for OWNING a firearm again? In Colorado I believe it is no felony charges and no domestic violence.

[Irving]

It is NOT just something you see in the movies.

...enough said.

Not enough said. Certain jobs with the government that require a clearance have very strict requirements. What about every other job in the US? A hair test is NOT the norm.

[OneGuy67]

Every job I've had since the age of 18 has required urine and/or blood tests as part of pre-employment and periodic tests throughout the employment. They are the norm for many jobs.