Can someone tell me the amount of debt Regan and the Bush's accumulated?

[nynco]

That was over 15 years ago and in Greely...

[BigDee]

How do you reestablish the middle class? You create a tax code that taxes the life out of the profits of the major job creators. You do not tax or threaten their revenue, you do however tax the life out of their profits.

Trickle down economics do not work.

[nynco]

Agreed trickle down does not work. We have a long history to look at as to what works and what does not. Resoundingly voodoo economics has failed. We don't just need to raise taxes on Americans. What we need to do is raise taxes on foreigners. Bring back the tariff system that the founding fathers establish that existed all the way till Reagan started to dismantle them and Clintoon put on steroids with NAFTA.

[centrarchidae]

Yes! Because the Smoot-Hawley tariff worked soooo well the first time!

Agreed trickle down does not work. We have a long history to look at as to what works and what does not. Resoundingly voodoo economics has failed. We don't just need to raise taxes on Americans. What we need to do is raise taxes on foreigners. Bring back the tariff system that the founding fathers establish that existed all the way till Reagan started to dismantle them and Clintoon put on steroids with NAFTA.

[Singlestack]

Tort reform should have been part of the over-regulation of the health care industry that is going on.
Again you guys don't seem to get the obvious. If you take away peoples rights to sue in your "tort reform" there is no system that is functional in the tort cases that will ever stop a company from doing as they please.

One thing I really can't stand about liberals is the constant use of the strawman argument. A strawman is where a position is misrepresented as something it isn't, then attacked. In this case, the poster says tort reform is "taking away peoples right to sue". Absolute BS. Nobody, and I mean nobody, is proposing Tort Reform and limiting a "right to sue".If the poster is intellectually honest, he will explain exactly how Tort reform takes away "peoples right to sue". He can't.

A more recent example of strawman arguments is the Democrat Party saying that Republicans want to take a way a woman's right to birth control. Again, couldn't be further from the truth, but it certainly fires up the base, no doubt about it. The reality is they want all taxpayers to fund free contraceptives (and abortion, for that matter) - even those who are morally and religiously opposed to that. The posit the strawman, since making the true argument as I stated above won't have the same effect. So demagogue and lie to your hearts content.

Singlestack

[Pancho Villa]

It's a historical fact, singlestack. You can't argue with that.

[spqrzilla]

Singlestack, in nynco's case, its obvious that he isn't using a strawman argument. Instead, what is happening is that nynco is truly utterly ignorant of the arguments of his political opponents. He has no clue what their stance is, what their policy positions are, and what the explanations for those policy positions are. The result is that he makes up stuff, presents utterly cartoonish versions of his opponents and looks like a fool.

[spqrzilla]

How do you reestablish the middle class? You create a tax code that taxes the life out of the profits of the major job creators. You do not tax or threaten their revenue, you do however tax the life out of their profits.

Trickle down economics do not work.

Wonderful sarcasm. nynco's not even realizing you made fun of him.

[spqrzilla]

Agreed trickle down does not work.

This is hilarious because the Democrats agreed in December of 2010 that "trickle down" (an outrageously ignorant misrepresentation) does work when they agreed to continue the Bush era tax rates because they feared sabotaging the economy.

We have a long history to look at as to what works and what does not. Resoundingly voodoo economics has failed. We don't just need to raise taxes on Americans. What we need to do is raise taxes on foreigners. Bring back the tariff system that the founding fathers establish that existed all the way till Reagan started to dismantle them and Clintoon put on steroids with NAFTA.

And we raise taxes on "foreigners" by getting them to come to America, walk through a dark alley and mug them? Or what? Send out Marine Amphib Units to invade foreign countries and haul off their goods like Viking raids?

I can't believe how your comments get more and more ridiculous.

[Singlestack]

It's a historical fact, singlestack. You can't argue with that.

Uh, no. And yes, I'm arguing with that. Great comeback.