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    what school was it?

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    One would think that there would be a protocol in place to ensure the shoot house was clear of friendlies before any live fire exercise began. Were they ignored or circumvented?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    One would think that there would be a protocol in place to ensure the shoot house was clear of friendlies before any live fire exercise began. Were they ignored or circumvented?
    Jerrymrc is absolutely correct.

    Live fire shoot house evolutions are an invaluable training tool. They also carry with them their own safety issues. There are ways to mitigate these issues (Jerrymrc covered the obvious) which were clearly being ignored in this instance.

    CQB is not a flat range with walls and a roof. If you treat it that way, sooner or later someone is going to get hurt.
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    Well lets not forget that the pistol jockey pulled the trigger three times and scored three hits on a live target. AND according to the above, he KNEW they were there as he set it up, so WTF was going through his mind that he lets three rounds off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwalker460 View Post
    Well lets not forget that the pistol jockey pulled the trigger three times and scored three hits on a live target. AND according to the above, he KNEW they were there as he set it up, so WTF was going through his mind that he lets three rounds off?
    RIF fail. Reread the post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwalker460 View Post
    Well lets not forget that the pistol jockey pulled the trigger three times and scored three hits on a live target. AND according to the above, he KNEW they were there as he set it up, so WTF was going through his mind that he lets three rounds off?
    The shooter knew where the TARGETs were. He did not know the AI and student were in the house.

    There are a dozen simple things that could have prevented this incident. At the very least propper target ID. (See point number one in my original post.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwalker460 View Post
    Reading IS fundemental...
    We're obviously not reading the same thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-Boy View Post
    The shooter knew where the TARGETs were. He did not know the AI and student were in the house.

    There are a dozen simple things that could have prevented this incident. At the very least propper target ID. (See point number one in my original post.)
    Shooter setup the targets. Check.
    Class runs drill. Check
    Shooter exits. Check
    AI + 1 stays. Check
    Shooter re-enters and engages "targets" in the dark. Fail here
    Shooter ND shoots AI standing in front of target. Check

    Like Jerry said, headcount fail.
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