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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    So Doc, does that mean you are in favor of scrapping all the hackable computer voting machines and going back to a paper ballot.
    I would if its proven to be a weak link. I would also be in favor of requiring voting in person with ID required and even background checks of some form or another before issuing a ballot. Whatever it takes to eliminate fraud.
    Right now its a joke.
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    So what about the 90 year old war veteran in a home who can not get out of bed, lost his ID 20 years ago and was born in a barn and has no birth certificate. Those hard ID requirements just stole his constitutional right that he fought to preserve.

    As to the computers... well its been proven to be broke. Its been proven to be hackable (go to youtube and type voting machine hacking) and it has been shown more than once to have instances of more votes than voters or election results that flip. Its dangerous and could lead to some REALLY bad things.
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    He wouldn't be able to buy a pack of smokes either. But no one would be up in arms for him then. He would just have to get his shit together before its time to vote. I would help him do it. Drive him to the DMV, Vital Statistics and Polling place. But I wouldn't let him get out of it just because its easier to not require all that. There is to much at stake and its to easy to abuse. We need better protections than a paddle lock on the ballot box.

    ETA: Or just have a dedicated group of fine upstanding and thoroughly checked out individuals go to peoples homes that might be in the position you described and issue them a ballot. With the number of ballots being tracked like they were gold.
    I would be fine with it just to avoid a fraud like Obama getting reelected.
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    buyin a pack of smokes is not a constitutional right. BIG DIFFERENCE... Neither is driving. VOTING is a constitutional right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    So what about the 90 year old war veteran in a home who can not get out of bed, lost his ID 20 years ago and was born in a barn and has no birth certificate. Those hard ID requirements just stole his constitutional right that he fought to preserve.
    What a bizarre fantasy life you have.
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    Apparently you think everyone is like you. Get out more

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    All I see is someone bending stats to fit their argument. Take ten small counties with transient/seasonal populations. Go to work fabricating data.
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    Rather brazen voter fraud in Ohio in 2004 (more votes than voters in more than a few red counties) and FL in 2000 but you guys did not care because Bush got elected. Heck the supreme court stepped in in 2000 in stole election by ending the counting of votes.

    Listen I don't give a crap if the people chose to elect a libertarian. But if we can not trust our elections, what do we have left?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    buyin a pack of smokes is not a constitutional right. BIG DIFFERENCE... Neither is driving. VOTING is a constitutional right.
    Owning a gun is a constitutional right and we have been forced to show ID when doing that. Its just not worth risking the fraud IMO.
    Also, if it was made a big deal to get a ballot, maybe, people would treat it as a big deal to get out and vote too?
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