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    keep us posted on what you find out

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    I carry a Zero Tolerance assisted opener that is right at the 3.5" limit. Of course, if we all started emailing our legislators at the state level then we might get something moving. You all know this, but worth mentioning, it is ludicrous that we are allowed to carry a 3.5" manual or assisted opener but not an auto. The blades are equally sharp and can deploy just about at the same speed. It makes no sense to make autos illegal. It does not give any person a clear advantage in a fight or while committing a crime or even while legally defending one's self...or at opening those pesky boxes.

    So then why do I want one you ask...because it is fun. I am willing to spend at least $250 on a quality OTF so I can sit there watching my favorite TV show drinking a Mountain Dew and snapping that OTF in and out. Fun, fun, fun...and good for the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    Assisted opening knives are a gray area. Switchblades and fully automatic stilettos are clearly illegal under state law.
    I have a friend that is trying to sell a benchmade infidel otf.

    Is it legal to sell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raz-n-co View Post
    I have a friend that is trying to sell a benchmade infidel otf.

    Is it legal to sell?
    If it opens with the push of a button, under CRS 18-12-102, it would only be legal to sell to a sworn LEO, or a member of the Armed forces. Technically, possession by anyone not falling into the above categories is a Class 1 misdemeanor.

    from the definitions section:
    (j) "Switchblade knife" means any knife, the blade of which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in its handle.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colorado Revised Statutes
    TITLE 18. CRIMINAL CODE
    ARTICLE 12. OFFENSES RELATING TO FIREARMS AND WEAPONS
    PART 1. FIREARMS AND WEAPONS - GENERAL
    C.R.S. 18-12-102 (2012)
    18-12-102. Possessing a dangerous or illegal weapon - affirmative defense



    (1) As used in this section, the term "dangerous weapon" means a firearm silencer, machine gun, short shotgun, short rifle, or ballistic knife.

    (2) As used in this section, the term "illegal weapon" means a blackjack, gas gun, metallic knuckles, gravity knife, or switchblade knife.

    (3) A person who knowingly possesses a dangerous weapon commits a class 5 felony. Each subsequent violation of this subsection (3) by the same person shall be a class 4 felony.

    (4) A person who knowingly possesses an illegal weapon commits a class 1 misdemeanor.

    (5) It shall be an affirmative defense to the charge of possessing a dangerous weapon, or to the charge of possessing an illegal weapon, that the person so accused was a peace officer or member of the armed forces of the United States or Colorado National Guard acting in the lawful discharge of his duties, or that said person has a valid permit and license for possession of such weapon.
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    But if you keep reading....

    - 18-12-105.
    Unlawfully carrying a concealed weapon - unlawful possession of weapons.
    (1) A person commits a class 2 misdemeanor if such person knowingly and unlawfully:
    (a) Carries a knife concealed on or about his or her person; or
    (b) Carries a firearm concealed on or about his or her person; or
    (c) Without legal authority, carries, brings, or has in such person's possession a firearm or any explosive, incendiary, or other dangerous device on the property of or within any building in which the chambers, galleries, or offices of the general assembly, or either house thereof, are located, or in which a legislative hearing or meeting is being or is to be conducted, or in which the official office of any member, officer, or employee of the general assembly is located.
    (d) (Deleted 1993.)
    (2) It shall not be an offense if the defendant was:
    (a) A person in his or her own dwelling or place of business or on property owned or under his or her control at the time of the act of carrying; or
    (b) A person in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance who carries a weapon for lawful protection of such person's or another's person or property while traveling; or

    (c) A person who, at the time of carrying a concealed weapon, held a valid written permit to carry a concealed weapon issued pursuant to section 18-12-105.1, as it existed prior to its repeal, or, if the weapon involved was a handgun, held a valid permit to carry a concealed handgun or a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to part 2 of this article; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-214; or
    (d) A peace officer, as described in section 16-2.5-101, C.R.S., when carrying a weapon in conformance with the policy of the employing agency as provided in section 16-2.5-101 (2), C.R.S.; or
    (e) (Deleted 2003.)
    (f) A United States probation officer or a United States pretrial services officer while on duty and serving in the state of Colorado under the authority of rules and regulations promulgated by the judicial conference of the United States.
    I also cannot find anything on laws regarding private party sales

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJLou View Post
    But if you keep reading....



    I also cannot find anything on laws regarding private party sales
    This section covers weapons that are not classified as "illegal". Nothing in the section you quoted would contradict that classification, it merely allows for the possession of otherwise legal knives or firearms in one's home, business, or vehicle.
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    I am curious to the exact meaning of this...

    (5) It shall be an affirmative defense to the charge of possessing a dangerous weapon, or to the charge of possessing an illegal weapon, that the person so accused was a peace officer or member of the armed forces of the United States or Colorado National Guard acting in the lawful discharge of his duties, or that said person has a valid permit and license for possession of such weapon.
    So what if your a reservist? Or even active duty military but just out and about on the weekend dressed as a civilian? Would this be considered "acting in the lawful discharge of his duties"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnrider View Post
    I am curious to the exact meaning of this...



    So what if your a reservist? Or even active duty military but just out and about on the weekend dressed as a civilian? Would this be considered "acting in the lawful discharge of his duties"?

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    I carry either my Gerber 06 Auto or my Benchmade 9100 while in uniform for garrison things like opening letters and just general tom-foolery.

    I carry a CRKT Edgie in civilian clothes.

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    All my autos went into the safe when I retired.
    Mom's comin' 'round to put it back the way it ought to be.

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