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    Quote Originally Posted by strm_trpr View Post
    As a Law Enforcement Officer in Colorado, it bothers me when fellow LEOs refer to the general public as civilians and they imply they are not. These positions will simply be non P.O.S.T certified positions. I have always been a civilian and will always be a civilian unless we secceed from the union .....
    I sure wish all of your brethren had this outlook. Civilian policing is worlds away from military enforcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    So Guy, what then do you make of people like KevDen and I (and others) who have done both; that is, raised our right hand both as part of enlisting into the military and again as law enforcement officers. I've put up with crap doing both jobs, dealt with stupid people, slept in foxholes and backseats, worked long hours and been away from my family for extended periods, missed out on birthdays, anniversaries, special events for both jobs.

    If you are/were in the Military then you were in the Military, it has nothing to do with some Law enforcement officers elitist mentality of "us and civilians"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    If you are/were in the Military then you were in the Military, it has nothing to do with some Law enforcement officers elitist mentality of "us and civilians"
    But okay for military members to have this elitist mentality of "us and civilians"?
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    But okay for military members to have this elitist mentality of "us and civilians"?
    It's not elitist... it's just the facts. Military is not civilian, police are civilian (hence why they delineate the difference between "Military law enforcement" and "civilian law enforcement.")
    "There is no news in the truth, and no truth in the news."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    It's not elitist... it's just the facts. Military is not civilian, police are civilian (hence why they delineate the difference between "Military law enforcement" and "civilian law enforcement.")
    Thanks Ryan. I was asking Guy that question.
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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