Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
Outside of the 1860's, has a peaceful secession ever been attempted? I would imagine if you had a majority in a certain state decide to it would be possible. We all want to avoid any civil war or violence, and the way states rights have been deteriorated over the last 100 years or so, it would seem their grievances are legitimate and I don't believe there is any law that states a state within the union doesn't have the right to withdraw.
Secession? Not exactly but there has been a sovereignty movement in Hawaii for the last 30 years attempting to get the US to recognize the fact that the American Ambassador and detached Marines supported an illegal and hostile overthrow of a friendly and cooperative government which was recognized throughout Europe as a sovereign power. One of the many problems with their premise is that most of the people in the so-called sovereignty movement are themselves Marxists that would have been protesting the Hawaiian Kingdom if it still existed. Another major issue is that the Kamehameha line no longer has any recognized heir and neither does the Kalakaua family so the only available legal construct (e.g., election through the Office of Hawaiian Affairs) has never had any standing as a sovereign power.