hostess is closing due to strikes ?

[Great-Kazoo]

You'll share your reloading bench with me, right?

Absolutely, there's a wait for non-members
Really time slots are filling up, blue #3 will be up and running later today.

[Rucker61]

But you also don't have a right to tell a business they can't make profit.

I agree. I'm not a business owner, but I'm in business. Go, go, make a profit. Make lots of money. You have the right to try. You don't, IMO, have the right to succeed. You have the hope, the opportunity, hopefully the ability, and the responsibility. In fact, it's the law that a corporation HAS to act in such a way as to maximize profits. That law doesn't guarantee profits, though, as if they were a right. There are exceptions - in some cases, credit card companies are limited in the amount of profit they can make from businesses who use their services to collect payments from their customers. I'll leave the discussion of the morality of such a rule for another time.

And to make a business donate its profit to the leeches.

I don't, no. But the government does, or at least the ability to do so, in the form of taxation and other fees. However, the government doesn't limit the amount of profit a company can make. Make more money, pay more taxes, yes; but you still make more money.

Are we striking a nerve? Are you afraid for your government assistance program?

As my household makes a pretty comfortable living, I'm not taking advantage of any government programs. It's not always about me, though.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Absolutely, there's a wait for non-members
Really time slots are filling up, blue #3 will be up and running later today.

I think I had a perfectly good reason for offering a member's only discount... If you'd like, I can just list things with a single price and not pass along a savings to the people of the forum...

I made a whole $5 off the lowers I sold. And, I only made that $5 because I didn't have change for one of the guys and he told me to keep it.

And besides... I'm not going to come leech off your machins like some people would... I'll come bearing beer! And it'll all be yours since I don't drink.

EDIT: Now that I think of it... I didn't even make that. I spent $5 on a sammich and a Go Fast on the way to meet a guy.

[Rucker61]

You'll share your reloading bench with me, right?

Has anyone ever looked into a reloading co-op? I'm envisioning a storefront with a multiple bench setup for use by the members, who don't want or can't have a setup in their domecile, but would like to reload. Maybe offer training and sell components like powder, etc. I expect insurance would be a big hurdle, and perhaps zoning, but I'd be interested in support such a business.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Has anyone ever looked into a reloading co-op? I'm envisioning a storefront with a multiple bench setup for use by the members, who don't want or can't have a setup in their domecile, but would like to reload. Maybe offer training and sell components like powder, etc. I expect insurance would be a big hurdle, and perhaps zoning, but I'd be interested in support such a business.

As long as they don't make a profit, right?

[Rucker61]

As long as they don't make a profit, right?

Oh, you kill me. I've never said I was against profit; I stated that I don't believe a venture has a right to make a profit, in the same way that we don't have the right to prevent them from profiting, either. Free market and all.

That said, I think co-ops have different rules for how profit is treated than a typical business. I found this at the NCBA:

"About Co-opsA cooperative is a business. Co-ops range in size from small store-fronts to large Fortune 500 companies. In many ways, they're like any other business; but in several important ways they're unique and different.
Cooperatives

• Are owned and democratically controlled by their members-the people who use the co-op’s services or buy its goods-not by outside investors; Co-op members elect their board of directors from within the membership.

• Return surplus revenues (income over expenses and investment) to members proportionate to their use of the cooperative, not proportionate to their “investment” or ownership share.
• Are motivated not by profit, but by service-to meet their members’ needs or affordable and high quality goods or services; Exist solely to serve their members.
• Pay taxes on income kept within the co-op for investment and reserves. Surplus revenues from the co-op are returned to individual members who pay taxes on that income."

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Oh, you kill me. I've never said I was against profit; I stated that I don't believe a venture has a right to make a profit, in the same way that we don't have the right to prevent them from profiting, either. Free market and all.

That said, I think co-ops have different rules for how profit is treated than a typical business. I found this at the NCBA:

"About Co-opsA cooperative is a business. Co-ops range in size from small store-fronts to large Fortune 500 companies. In many ways, they're like any other business; but in several important ways they're unique and different.
Cooperatives

• Are owned and democratically controlled by their members-the people who use the co-op’s services or buy its goods-not by outside investors; Co-op members elect their board of directors from within the membership.

• Return surplus revenues (income over expenses and investment) to members proportionate to their use of the cooperative, not proportionate to their “investment” or ownership share.
• Are motivated not by profit, but by service-to meet their members’ needs or affordable and high quality goods or services; Exist solely to serve their members.
• Pay taxes on income kept within the co-op for investment and reserves. Surplus revenues from the co-op are returned to individual members who pay taxes on that income."

Since you're anti-profit you'd make a fine Co-op leader. Why don't you invest all your time and money into getting this thing going...

If you couldn't tell yet... This is my way of agreeing to disagree.

[Rucker61]

Since you're anti-profit you'd make a fine Co-op leader. Why don't you invest all your time and money into getting this thing going...

If you couldn't tell yet... This is my way of agreeing to disagree.

I don't know enough about small businesses to know if the FFL or insurance requirements would be a business killer. For something like this, what are the friendlier counties along the Front Range?

And I appreciate the politeness, and would be happy to buy you a beer anytime.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I don't know enough about small businesses to know if the FFL or insurance requirements would be a business killer. For something like this, what are the friendlier counties along the Front Range?

And I appreciate the politeness, and would be happy to buy you a beer anytime.

I don't drink beer... or alcohol in general... But I'll take a kidney killing Go Fast Energy drink!

JeffCo is a pretty cool county.

[buffalobo]

Jim do know what the term "The Commons" means? Well that does not come free.

I would doubt the two of you would agree on the definition of "The Commons" on the first try.