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    Record breaking corporate profits in the United States in 2011. A company who has had financial issues in the past to the point of filing bankruptcy. These two facts and yet there are people ignorant enough to blame evil unions for the death of your beloved Hostess. Get a fucking clue. Seriously.

    There are times when Unions aren't perfect and there are times when they are downright awful. And sometimes, life and business is more complicated than the talking points you heard on talk radio or read in a 50 year old novel.
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    Glad to see many of you here are not knee jerk against the union guys. They are not perfect but over the last 10 years they have taken over a 25% pay cut while the wallstreet dicks who run hostess extracted all the money they could from it. Its another example of what is going wrong in the nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
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    Hostess Blames Union For Bankruptcy After Tripling CEO’s Pay

    BCTGM members are well aware that as the company was preparing to file for bankruptcy earlier this year, the then CEO of Hostess was awarded a 300 percent raise (from approximately $750,000 to $2,550,000) and at least nine other top executives of the company received massive pay raises. One such executive received a pay increase from $500,000 to $900,000 and another received one taking his salary from $375,000 to $656,256.

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...all/?mobile=nc

    What you are seeing is greedy wallstreet fucks breaking the backs of middle class union workers so they can force more Americans to work for slave wages. Nothing but pure greed. The type that is destroying this nation over the long haul.

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    Already getting those Hostess trucks repainted.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Drilldov2.0 View Post
    Yes, I can. The union shut down a company and lost 12k more workers their jobs. A great, shining example of how unions have no place anymore. I am glad Hostess shut down and the union workers lost their jobs. Hostess has only been in business for 82 years, they must be doing something right. They made a mistake in hiring union.
    Wrong. The union didn't shut down the company, the company leadership decided to declare bankruptcy. Neither side should be forced to maintain an employer/employee relationship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    Hostess Blames Union For Bankruptcy After Tripling CEO’s Pay

    BCTGM members are well aware that as the company was preparing to file for bankruptcy earlier this year, the then CEO of Hostess was awarded a 300 percent raise (from approximately $750,000 to $2,550,000) and at least nine other top executives of the company received massive pay raises. One such executive received a pay increase from $500,000 to $900,000 and another received one taking his salary from $375,000 to $656,256.

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...all/?mobile=nc

    What you are seeing is greedy wallstreet fucks breaking the backs of middle class union workers so they can force more Americans to work for slave wages. Nothing but pure greed. The type that is destroying this nation over the long haul.
    AHHH, I see, it's the fault of the 1% again! (sarcasm) I see it as a case of workers cutting off their nose to spite their face.
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    No more like the company executives running it into the ground while stealing all the money. They then pawn the pension obligation onto the taxpayers (meaning YOU AND I now pay) and then fire everyone. This use to be illegal to do this with pension obligations. But thanks to pension deregulation, its standard business practice. The Airlines did it before and you and I pick up the tab while the CEO loots the company. Its nothing more than union busting and attacking the workers. The workers took a over 25% loss in pay over the last 10 years. The CEO jerks tripled their pay and you want to blame the union?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    No more like the company executives running it into the ground while stealing all the money. They then pawn the pension obligation onto the taxpayers (meaning YOU AND I now pay) and then fire everyone. This use to be illegal to do this with pension obligations. But thanks to pension deregulation, its standard business practice. The Airlines did it before and you and I pick up the tab while the CEO loots the company. Its nothing more than union busting and attacking the workers. The workers took a over 25% loss in pay over the last 10 years. The CEO jerks tripled their pay and you want to blame the union?
    I blame... Awe fuck it, I don't have anyone to blame...

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