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    Default Arizona gun store won't sell to Obama voters

    http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/gun-store-obama-voters-not-welcome.html
    As he says, his customers probably aren't Obama voters anyway but he's putting his money where his mouth is -- or refusing their money anyway ...

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    The owner of an Arizona gun store said he will not sell weapons to customers who voted for President Obama because “you have proven that you are not responsible enough to own a firearm.”

    Cope Reynolds, owner of the Southwest Shooting Authority in Pinetop, Ariz., posted the new store policy in a newspaper advertisement — as well as on a sign posted on the front door.

    “I’m a small business owner,” he said. “If you are dumb enough to vote for Obama again – after four years of this — I don’t think you are responsible enough to own a firearm. I don’t care who it makes mad.”


    He also posted a letter on the Ammoland website that read in part:

    “To Whom it May Concern:

    I thought you all might be interested in this. We will try to demonstrate once again that the bottom line for our business is principle, not money. Yes, it has been damaging at times but our values are intact. Effective immediately, if you voted for Obama, your money is no good here. You have proven beyond a doubt that you are not responsible enough to own a firearm. We have just put a sign up on the front door to save you the trouble of walking all the way in here.”


    At the end of the day, Reynolds said it really doesn’t matter what happens to his company — the signs are staying up.

    “If we lose the whole business it doesn’t matter,” he said. “The bottom line is — my values.”

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    And nynco weighing in on this in 5... 4... 3...

    I'll say this, small businesses reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, legally.
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    stupid....to me i try to shot with as many libs/non gun people as i possibly can i have changed peoples whole stances on gun control once they realized my scary black guns could be for something else besides mass shootings and drive bys

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    Why not sell to them in hopes that they become more knowledgeable about shooting sports and change their likely negative opinion of firearms....presumably anything is possible. The common gun forum mantra seems to be "take a new person to the range, get them interested in it", or "get the next generation interested in firearms to preserve the future of the 2A" and yet this businessman seems to be divisive about the very thing many of us would benefit from making inclusive.

    It's surely his right to do it, just like it's his right to shoot himself in the foot. I simply think he may be accomplishing both tasks simultaneously.

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    Jensens did this in 08
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    Quote Originally Posted by hatidua View Post
    Why not sell to them in hopes that they become more knowledgeable about shooting sports and change their likely negative opinion of firearms....presumably anything is possible. The common gun forum mantra seems to be "take a new person to the range, get them interested in it", or "get the next generation interested in firearms to preserve the future of the 2A" and yet this businessman seems to be divisive about the very thing many of us would benefit from making inclusive.

    It's surely his right to do it, just like it's his right to shoot himself in the foot. I simply think he may be accomplishing both tasks simultaneously.
    That is one possibility, the other is that the average on the fence person who is ignorant enough to vote for Obama and still enjoy his freedom to shoot firearms would have his eyes opened when he viewed such an add. In either case I think that the numbers affected are very small. I doubt that this will do anything to push people away from gun ownership or conservative values. Chances are it will not affect their individual prospect of becoming more conservative in the future either. It is just there to stir up a little bit of controversy, and it is working. I wonder if they have online ordering...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatidua View Post
    Why not sell to them in hopes that they become more knowledgeable about shooting sports and change their likely negative opinion of firearms....presumably anything is possible. The common gun forum mantra seems to be "take a new person to the range, get them interested in it", or "get the next generation interested in firearms to preserve the future of the 2A" and yet this businessman seems to be divisive about the very thing many of us would benefit from making inclusive.

    It's surely his right to do it, just like it's his right to shoot himself in the foot. I simply think he may be accomplishing both tasks simultaneously.
    +1. It just alienates people who are anti-gun just because they have never even held a real gun. We're on the losing side based on urbanization and other factors. Safely introducing people who know nothing really helps the gun cause.

    I used to work at a company that was neutral about gun. I was open about and had an open offer to take people shooting. If you'd never shot before I'd take them out to a range and provide guns and ammo. In 10 years I must have taken over 20 groups of people. It was safe and most had fun. A fair number actually bought guns and a couple even joined the NRA and gun clubs. Now I work at a place with the no weapons sign on the door and I keep a lower profile but don't hide it.

    That gunstore owner has the right to run his business as he wishes. It's also his right to be a fool.

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    I have a few friends who work at the gun counter in Sportsman's Warehouse and they told me that after Obama won the 2008 election, they had a few customers who came to purchase firearms wearing their "Hope" & "Change" t-shirts. I guess there are some gun-toting Liberals out there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cysoto View Post
    I have a few friends who work at the gun counter in Sportsman's Warehouse and they told me that after Obama won the 2008 election, they had a few customers who came to purchase firearms wearing their "Hope" & "Change" t-shirts. I guess there are some gun-toting Liberals out there...
    There are gun toting liberals who could give 2 shits about your or anyone else RKBA. We have a few members who toe the Lib mentality, ask them about "your rights" regarding anything else you as a libertarian, independent, republican or conservative believe in. They would sell you out in a heartbeat to "preserve" their Tolerant & Diverse Values.
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    He has the right to do business as he pleases, but I think it is counter productive to gun rights.

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