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    Default FNG A-Holes AGAIN!!

    Some of you might remember my rant back in February about fraudulent checks and my company. For those who don't I'll sum it up.

    Right after Presidents day I receive a call from a check cashing place wanting to know if a check is ok to cash. After they gave me the details it turns out someone got a hold of one of my guy's checks with routing # and account #. Made about 20 or so fake checks trying to cash them at several check cashing places around the metro area.

    Lucky for me the banks were closed on Monday. So 1st thing I did Tuesday was close my account. They didn't get a cent of my business funds. But they did cash 17- 18 checks at check cashing places all around town, for a total of around $12,800.00. After closing my account, several police reports, shredding over 1,000 unused checks, filling out a Federal report for every fraud check that presented to the bank 17 - 18, and all my time wasted driving around town doing all of this.

    Guess what?? There F*&king Back!!! Only 5 fraud checks today, they dated them as of 11/16/12 last Friday, which happens to be payroll day. And the #'s are a big spread. This time if the check #'s are in order. They have made about 115 fake checks all between $550.00 and $750.00 each one!! I'm sure I'll be getting quite a few more very soon.

    But again, I caught it right off the bat called the bank so I'm not out any money, but the check cashing places are. And now I get to have all the same fun I did before. New account was compromised, close account, more police reports, shred all my new checks, etc. etc. etc.

    FU#KING AZZHOLES!!!!!!!!

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    Default Re: FNG A-Holes AGAIN!!

    How are they getting a copy of your check to begin with?

    Also, do you use multiple accounts and only transfer in enough to cover outstanding AP?

    My Amex gets compromised every 18 months. Pitb but they are always super great about it.


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    Just once, I'd chalk it up to "shit happens". But twice? I gotta say I'd be wondering if someone wasn't spreading a little too much info around.
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    Do these check cashing places have video survaillence?

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    Any chance one of your employees is behind this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Any chance one of your employees is behind this?
    My thought exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    Do these check cashing places have video survaillence?
    They all have video cameras, the problem is and this is from fraud central, they get guy's off the street, offer them $50, give them a fake ID which they make in the van or what ever, make the fake check to match. And tell them to take the check, Id, in and try to cash it. If the check cashing place say's no they bolt leaving every thing behind. And more than likely go back to what ever state or country the came from. Then they find a new a new person and a different check cashing place.

    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Any chance one of your employees is behind this?
    I'm pretty sure not. Most of my guy's are just labor and can't work the time clock let alone some thing this complex. These bastards are using real check making stock aka paper, computers, color printer, scanner, fake ID knowledge, fake finger prints, laminator, and know the ins and outs of the check cashing places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Any chance one of your employees is behind this?
    Someone you are handing checks to are in on it. Employee, customer, someone you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WETWRKS View Post
    Someone you are handing checks to are in on it. Employee, customer, someone you know.
    What the fraud officer is guessing, is a lot of my employee's use check cashing places. So he's thinking the bad guy's are hanging out and offering my guy an extra $50 or so for his check plus the amount the check is made out for. It's a drop in the bucket for these guys. Like I said last time the were able to cash 17 - 18 within 1 week.

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    This makes me wonder how difficult it would be to pay your guys with some sort of prepaid debit cards. It seems like that would eliminate a lot of issues...
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