Group carbine refresher/coaching day?

[Sticks]

Disclaimer: This will be only for those that have attended KellyTTE's Oct./Nov. basic carbine course, not for some random person wanting to get some training.



Several people that attended KellyTTE's second class expressed an interest in getting together to work some more on what we learned, and there was a general consensus that the Mary Kate module was a huge help with your SO watching you at the different stages and giving critiques.

I for one have a few items that I need to work on, and have several down pretty good that I can assist others with.

Several of us have attended other classes and that provides a wealth of information that can be passed on to others (presuming the student that was taught is doing it right and can articulate how to perform that task to another). It was KellyTTE's class, so we did the things he teaches us, his way. He had a lot of items to cover in 16 hours of range time, so obviously we can't spend extra time focusing on some of the modules that a few may have been struggling with and expect to get through the entire course on time.

There are some variations on a few of the "modules" that he was teaching (not saying his way is wrong - it's just his way) that I was taught by 2 other well respected trainers in the industry that may help others comprehend the method and perform it a bit better. Likewise with the other two classes that I attended in the spring, there were some variations in what they were teaching on the same subject. I'll go into more detail on that in my AAR this weekend.

What I am proposing is that those interested, (lets keep the max at 10) get together to have a refresher/corrective action range day. Again - This will be only for those that have attended Kelly's Oct./Nov. basic carbine course, not for some random person wanting to get some training. If you want to learn what he taught - take one or more of his classes.

The bonus for those that did attend the class will learn a few things from other shooters that have attended professional training courses.

We discuss and pick, say 5-10 different items to work on, and maybe a couple new things for the day and have at it.

First and foremost, what we need is a place to shoot safely out to 100y, can accommodate 10 shooters at once, is not a 2+ hour drive for anyone, and is relatively close to medical aid in case someone has a real bad day. If you know a guy, who knows a guy that will let us shoot on their property, the appropriate waivers can be drawn up, and we will adhere to a "Leave no trace" activity short of lead in the berm, foot prints, and tire tracks. Likewise if you have a private membership at a range and they will allow you the latitude to bring in 9 others for a day - perfect.
-Target stands - COVERED
-Targets - COVERED
-Target backers (sheets of cardboard are not all that difficult to obtain) - COVERED
-Barricades (beg, borrow, or we'll make a couple)
-Shot timer - COVERED
-Staple guns (functioning) and ammo for said staplers. - COVERED
-Clipboard
-Writing instruments
-Any drill specs/score sheets (Kelly handed out a few of what he had)
-Trash bags (contractor type)
-Brass buckets
-2 designated persons from the group to "Take Charge" and keep things moving in a somewhat orderly fashion. I've better things to do than listen to a bunch of stories from the good ol' days, or have this turn into a free for all lead slinging day. The intent here is for everyone to work on the things they had trouble with, or as Kelly would say, "There is no I in Team, but there is a U in Suck." - COVERED

I'm sure we will figure out other items needed as (if) this evolves.

I am also proposing that we don't have all 10 shooting at once. This is a coaching refresher, so half shooting, the other half watching over, switch, rinse and repeat.

Who's interested?

Any additional suggestions other than a clearly defined safety "rule list" that will be adhered to (or you will pack your shit and leave either by majority vote or HMFIC decision)?

[Batteriesnare]

I would be interested, and have all the materials you listed, except for a range for a group that size.

[SuperiorDG]

Good idea Sticks. I have a lot of the stuff listed above, but don't know of a range.

[MAP]

I'd be interested. Let me know what I can do.

Mike

[CO303]

I have materials and can make arrangements for the group at my range. We need to limit the group to 10 or so. We need to make arrangements based on weather. Weekends are probably best.

[Sticks]

I have materials and can make arrangements for the group at my range. We need to limit the group to 10 or so. We need to make arrangements based on weather. Weekends are probably best.

Excellent!

Agreed - Weekends and weather are going to be the limiting factor for date. 9+ you would be an ideal number to keep things rolling.

[CO303]

I'll post my open dates for December tomorrow.

[Sticks]

Well, let's get a list of the KellyTTE students started that want to get on board for this. 8 slots open (presuming CO303 wants to participate), and we'll have another 5 alternates in case the dates don't work out for some.

I'll Edit this post as the "Count me in" posts hit, or people drop out.

ETA - If you are posting as a "Count me in" - please include what you need to work on so we can get that list going as well.

For me ~ Stance, Grip, getting better first shot times that are accurate, recoil control (not getting pushed back in rapid fire).

Sticks
CO303
SuperiorDG
Batteriesnare
Sawin

[Sticks]

I priced some targets

Item # Qty Price Total Amount
IPSC-CB 50 IPSC-CB CARDBOARD TARGETS $ 0.58 $ 29.00
PHT-LD 50 COMBAT SHOOTING LONG DISTANCE RIFLE TARGET $ 0.38 $ 19.00
PHT-ST 20 MULTI-PHOTO HEADSHOT TRAINING TARGET Mary Kate 0.98 $ 19.60
Order Total: $ 67.60
Quantities may be a little high for what we are doing, but if we all chip in, then we can split up the leftovers at the end of the day.

[Batteriesnare]

I have all of these......

I priced some targets

Item # Qty Price Total Amount
IPSC-CB 50 IPSC-CB CARDBOARD TARGETS $ 0.58 $ 29.00
PHT-LD 50 COMBAT SHOOTING LONG DISTANCE RIFLE TARGET $ 0.38 $ 19.00
PHT-ST 20 MULTI-PHOTO HEADSHOT TRAINING TARGET Mary Kate 0.98 $ 19.60
Order Total: $ 67.60
Quantities may be a little high for what we are doing, but if we all chip in, then we can split up the leftovers at the end of the day.