11 months to go

[Asha'man]

Not to worry, we'll be screwed regardless of who the next president will be. Or rather, we're screwed. It's time!

Unless it's Ron Paul.

[tsr]

Unless it's Ron Paul.

Regardless. I don't think the society has reached the level when the mentality can actually change. The only way things can get better for the country if we adopted some sort of system proposed in "Starship Troopers" -- citizenship through service.

[Gman]

Unless it's Ron Paul.

The guy's a loon. He doesn't have a prayer.

Hillary has astronomical disapproval numbers. I remember reading a poll were over half the respondants said they would never vote for her. She's a radical and doesn't have the polish to get away with the stuff her husband could.

[tsr]

Gman, why do you thing R.P. is a loon?

[Asha'man]

The guy's a loon.

Because he believes in the Constitution? Yeah, that's pretty out there.....

'Splain, Lucy.

[Gman]

His ideas on foreign policy are downright irresponsible. He wants to just turtle and hope that nobody cracks the shell.

[Marlin]

Have to agree with Greg, If it came down to RP, Billery or, eating ground glass. I'd have to go with the ground glass, it would be far less painfull.


ETA: If RP had a more realistic view of the world, I would have no problem with Him.

[Great-Kazoo]

The guy's a loon. He doesn't have a prayer.

Hillary has astronomical disapproval numbers. I remember reading a poll were over half the respondants said they would never vote for her. She's a radical and doesn't have the polish to get away with the stuff her husband could.

approval #'s or not. midway between now and then. watch her and obama kiss and make up. they will unite under the banner of putting their differences aside for the good of the country.

OR
worse case secnario is her and wesley clark as the VP.

[Asha'man]

His ideas on foreign policy are downright irresponsible. He wants to just turtle and hope that nobody cracks the shell.

Um, nope. From wikipedia:

Paul's foreign policy of nonintervention[11] made him the only 2008 Republican presidential candidate to have voted against the Iraq War Resolution in 2002.[12][13] He advocates withdrawal from the UN and NATO for reasons of maintaining strong national sovereignty.[11][14] He supports free trade, rejecting membership in NAFTA and the World Trade Organization as "managed trade".

Paul calls for a foreign policy of nonintervention.[42] This policy avoids entangling alliances with other nations, in the tradition of Washington, Jefferson, and Madison,[43] in order to avoid being drawn into wars not related to defense. He believes that war must be fought only to protect citizens, it must be declared by the U.S. Congress, and it must be concluded when the victory is complete as planned: "The American public deserves clear goals and a definite exit strategy in Iraq."[44] Paul advocates bringing troops home from U.S. military bases in Korea, Japan, and Europe among others.[45] He denies being an isolationist: he advocates "conducting open trade, travel, communication, and diplomacy with other nations".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politic...ns_of_Ron_Paul

[Gman]

You just reinforced my argument.

Look, Ron Paul's ideology would work fine if the Federal government hadn't been buggered up over the past 100 years. He also isn't willing to incrementally make things better. It's an all or nothing strategy and it doesn't work. He doesn't seem to give a rat's ass that the enemy of "good" is "better". He often votes with the Dems to make his point, and that doesn't help me today.

This isn't a green field. You can't pretend that you aren't in the current situation that you're in, even if you didn't cause it. You have to push for progress.

http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/10...economic_i.php

For him to say that we asked for 9-11 by "our interventionist policy"...that makes him a loon. He has to ignore thousands of years of Islamic history to make that conclusion. You also can't rationally compare attacks by terrorists to the international diplomacy involved in the Cuban missile crisis.

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/co...1/cr092501.htm