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    I guess that I'm an idiot too!! Having a readily available firearm unloaded is like installing a screen-door on a submarine...it just doesn't make sense!!

    BTW I'm weeping about all of the 400,000 rounds that were use during the test. They should've gave it all to me.
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    To start off, I watched the entire video and tried counting the rounds they destroyed, but then got too sad so I stopped. Very informative video and definitely worth the 25min to watch it.

    Not sure why we're counting idiots here. I think the risk of a fire is less than the risk of someone breaking into the house while I'm there. If everyone is worried about the firearm shooting the chambered cartridge, why not just mount/store the loaded firearm pointing in a safe direction. After all, that is one of the firearm laws (always keep it pointed in a safe direction)...

    Better yet, why not just get a revolver and keep an empty cylinder over the barrel. In self-defense, pulling the trigger in DA mode would advance the cartridge and fire it. Although with that line of thought, the rounds in a revolver are constricted by the cylinder and could therefore go off, not necessarily shooting down the barrel, but they would destroy the revolver in the process. So maybe a revolver isn't a good idea.

    I keep my bedside pistol mounted in a CQC holster that I have rigged to hang off the side of my nightstand, pointing downwards. If my house caught fire and it discharged, it would shoot into the concrete slab, I guess risking a ricochet, but thats better than it resting on a table and shooting off in a random direction, possibly through the house.

    Perhaps I'm totally missing the point of what people are talking about, and if so feel free to enlighten me.

    eta: I did forward this to my sister who is a Paramedic Firefighter. Not sure if she's aware of the truth behind this or not, but its a commonly believed myth by the vast majority of people (or so it seems).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffCyclist View Post
    Not sure why we're counting idiots here. I think the risk of a fire is less than the risk of someone breaking into the house while I'm there. If everyone is worried about the firearm shooting the chambered cartridge, why not just mount/store the loaded firearm pointing in a safe direction. After all, that is one of the firearm laws (always keep it pointed in a safe direction)...

    Better yet, why not just get a revolver and keep an empty cylinder over the barrel. In self-defense, pulling the trigger in DA mode would advance the cartridge and fire it. Although with that line of thought, the rounds in a revolver are constricted by the cylinder and could therefore go off, not necessarily shooting down the barrel, but they would destroy the revolver in the process. So maybe a revolver isn't a good idea.

    I keep my bedside pistol mounted in a CQC holster that I have rigged to hang off the side of my nightstand, pointing downwards. If my house caught fire and it discharged, it would shoot into the concrete slab, I guess risking a ricochet, but thats better than it resting on a table and shooting off in a random direction, possibly through the house.

    Perhaps I'm totally missing the point of what people are talking about, and if so feel free to enlighten me.

    eta: I did forward this to my sister who is a Paramedic Firefighter. Not sure if she's aware of the truth behind this or not, but its a commonly believed myth by the vast majority of people (or so it seems).
    Yes & No. I replied in my normal congenial & courteous way to this sentence by another member (Flatline) You will also see i said i choose to keep one loaded, a personal choice. Not one that is or should be gospel for gun owners (loosely interpreted)
    And some idiot may have left ammo in a gun's chamber, which would be deadly if it gets cooked off by a fire.

    To date i have and never will understand WHY IF you own a gun for PP / defensive tool you would not have one in the chamber. His sentence could have been worded differently to something like IF you had a loaded gun AND there was a fire it might become deadly, instead of SOME IDIOT.
    Obviously other posted agree with this IDIOT(me), that they too keep a loaded gun in the home. The up side to all this is no one has (yet) stooped low and started name calling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffCyclist View Post
    Not sure why we're counting idiots here. I think the risk of a fire is less than the risk of someone breaking into the house while I'm there. If everyone is worried about the firearm shooting the chambered cartridge, why not just mount/store the loaded firearm pointing in a safe direction. After all, that is one of the firearm laws (always keep it pointed in a safe direction)...

    Better yet, why not just get a revolver and keep an empty cylinder over the barrel. In self-defense, pulling the trigger in DA mode would advance the cartridge and fire it. Although with that line of thought, the rounds in a revolver are constricted by the cylinder and could therefore go off, not necessarily shooting down the barrel, but they would destroy the revolver in the process. So maybe a revolver isn't a good idea.

    I keep my bedside pistol mounted in a CQC holster that I have rigged to hang off the side of my nightstand, pointing downwards. If my house caught fire and it discharged, it would shoot into the concrete slab, I guess risking a ricochet, but thats better than it resting on a table and shooting off in a random direction, possibly through the house.

    Perhaps I'm totally missing the point of what people are talking about, and if so feel free to enlighten me.

    eta: I did forward this to my sister who is a Paramedic Firefighter. Not sure if she's aware of the truth behind this or not, but its a commonly believed myth by the vast majority of people (or so it seems).
    I keep some firearms in strategic places for our protection. They are loaded and ready to go in case of a house invasion. Just in case that you weren't tracking, during the 2 wars that we were fighting in Iraq and Asscrackistan many undesirables were able to join in, get the training, and get out (trust me, I was a Drill Sergeant during those times). Now those same undesirables have the skills to enter a house and clear it with the same speed as our troops.

    Now the question is, do you want to be a victim? If not, keep your firearms loaded and within arms reach and when you carry, carry on red!!

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    I want to get some pics of Rod shooting a 1911 since we all know how much he likes them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Yes & No. I replied in my normal congenial & courteous way to this sentence by another member (Flatline) You will also see i said i choose to keep one loaded, a personal choice. Not one that is or should be gospel for gun owners (loosely interpreted)
    And some idiot may have left ammo in a gun's chamber, which would be deadly if it gets cooked off by a fire.

    To date i have and never will understand WHY IF you own a gun for PP / defensive tool you would not have one in the chamber. His sentence could have been worded differently to something like IF you had a loaded gun AND there was a fire it might become deadly, instead of SOME IDIOT.
    Obviously other posted agree with this IDIOT(me), that they too keep a loaded gun in the home. The up side to all this is no one has (yet) stooped low and started name calling.
    Ah, gotcha! Its my last night on a 4 night shift (around 15hr nights) and I'm incredibly exhausted, not reading sentences clearly lol. I need sarcasm signs for clarity.

    Quote Originally Posted by sabot_round View Post
    I keep some firearms in strategic places for our protection. They are loaded and ready to go in case of a house invasion. Just in case that you weren't tracking, during the 2 wars that we were fighting in Iraq and Asscrackistan many undesirables were able to join in, get the training, and get out (trust me, I was a Drill Sergeant during those times). Now those same undesirables have the skills to enter a house and clear it with the same speed as our troops.

    Now the question is, do you want to be a victim? If not, keep your firearms loaded and within arms reach and when you carry, carry on red!!

    SR
    No, I do not want to be a victim, hence why I have a ccw, taught the fiancee to shoot (she loves it and is getting me to the range more often too), getting her a pistol of her choice eventually and her ccw soon, have an alarm system in our house and a dog that will alert us to any strange noises outside (which she does on a daily basis) and is aggressive enough to protect us with her life.

    I was reading the thread that everyone was saying "i'm another idiot" and that they were changing their HD choices and no longer keeping chambered rounds in their HD guns.

    Thanks for the clarifications!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffCyclist View Post
    Ah, gotcha! Last night on a 4 night shift and I'm incredibly exhausted, not reading sentences clearly lol. I need sarcasm signs.



    No, I do not want to be a victim, hence why I have a ccw, taught the fiancee to shoot (she loves it and is getting me to the range more often too), have an alarm system in our house and a dog that will alert us to any strange noises outside (which she does on a daily basis) and is aggressive enough to protect us with her life.

    I was reading the thread that everyone was saying "i'm another idiot" and that they were changing their HD choices and no longer keeping chambered rounds in their HD guns.
    Ahh very good!! My wife shoots a 44 Magnum very accurately (of course with my special loads) and she can put six rounds within 4" from 15 feet. That's not to bad for a 5'4" petite female.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabot_round View Post
    Ahh very good!! My wife shoots a 44 Magnum very accurately (of course with my special loads) and she can put six rounds within 4" from 15 feet. That's not to bad for a 5'4" petite female.
    Not to threadjack anymore, but there was a huge thread on here about how to introduce her to shooting. She shot my Glock 23 with a 9mm conversion barrel and loved it. She is an excellent shot too! The last time we went, I took some 1" pasters (the freebies they give to patch the holes on the big targets) and put those in random spots on the target and we made a game to see who could get the closest to them. She won, even shot one dead center at about 7yds. She wants to go again this weekend, and you won't see me complaining!

    She's very open to the idea of getting her CCW and I think we may sign her up for the class in a few months (after holidays etc). Then we'll go shopping for her, but I think sh'd enjoy it more if she had a pistol that fit her perfectly now. The last trip she commented a lot about how big the G23 was in her hands.

    Oh yea, did i mention that she also does jui jitsu? So thats more security for her too.

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    wow, I am extremely saddened at the number of rounds used in this test! Great to know those. I always kind of knew this after tossing some .22's into a fire as a kid while camping. Guess I am pretty safe with my ammo in metal or wood storage cabinets!
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    Well, I guess that all this answers the question as to who the idiot is??
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