Obama to Ban Guns?

[buckeye4rnr]

http://redflagnews.com/opinion/obama...by-alan-korwin

Anyone think this is legit?

Here it is, folks, and it is bad news: Obama’s Official Proposed Gun Ban List | Alan Korwin

November 28, 2012






Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is already laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did.
Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.
Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady’s plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states’ rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

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Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine
Sturm Ruger Mini-14
AR-15
Bushmaster XM15
Armalite M15
AR-10
Thompson 1927
Thompson M1
AK
AKM
AKS
AK-47
AK-74
ARM
MAK90
NHM 90
NHM 91
SA 85
SA 93
VEPR
Olympic Arms PCR
AR70
Calico Liberty
Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or DragunovSVU
Fabrique National FN/FAL
FN/LAR, or FNC
Hi-Point20Carbine
HK-91, HK-93
HK-94
HK-PSG-1
Thompson 1927 Commando
Kel-Tec Sub Rifle
Saiga
SAR-8
SAR-4800
SKS with detachable magazine
SLG 95
SLR 95 or 96
Steyr AU
Tavor
Uzi
Galil and Uzi Sporter
Galil Sporter or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz)

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Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

Calico M-110
MAC-10
MAC-11
MPA3
Olympic Arms OA
TEC-9,
TEC-DC9,
TEC-22 Scorpion or AB-10
Uzi

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Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):

Armscor 30 BG
SPAS 12 or LAW 12
Striker 12
Streetsweeper

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Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than
10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has:
(i) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.
A semiautomatic shotgun with:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.
Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.”
Note that Obama’s pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, “there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.” In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.
The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn’t have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose — is that devious or what? And of course, “sporting purpose” is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.
Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America
http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm

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Forward or send to every gun owner you know…

Watch This, If You Want More Proof:
YouTube – CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv3p2lLmjGk

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A partial list of gun rights groups:

Gun Owners of America
http://gunowners.org/
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership http://www.jpfo.org/
FREEDOM=GUNS
http://www.tcsn.net/doncicci/freedom.htm
National Rifle Association
http://www.nra.org/
Second Amendment Committee
http://www.libertygunrights.com/
Second Amendment Foundation
http://www.saf.org/
Second Amendment Sisters
http://www.2asisters.org/
Women Against Gun Control
http://www.wagc.com/

[kidicarus13]

That's an old list. As opposed to a "new" list which there is not one.

[Bailey Guns]

I'm sure that's a democrat's wet dream of a gun ban list. But the line, "The framework for legislation is already laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us," is nonsense. Unless I missed it when the dems took over the house. I'd give this article about a 1 on the "Believe 'o Meter".

[loveski]

There was something similar in 2008. Probably the same list, just changed the date.

[buckeye4rnr]

Oh, that makes sense. I didn't think it was legit but thought I'd ask.

[Great-Kazoo]

I'm sure that's a democrat's wet dream of a gun ban list. But the line, "The framework for legislation is already laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us," is nonsense. Unless I missed it when the dems took over the house. I'd give this article about a 1 on the "Believe 'o Meter".

While i agree with your reply. I am troubled by the GOP's willingness to "reconsider" Rice as SOS. The whole Benghazi "cover up" if you will disturbs me. The potential, based on media "leaks" only while not a reliable source of the GOP to allow Rice the nomination shows me they are desperate and willing to concede just about anything to remain credible to the public at large.

[Ronin13]

I've seen this "list" about 100 times now- it's been posted by almost every 2A support page on facebook, and put in all the internet "news" sites (read: interweb tabloids)... I'm with Carl, this rates a 1.0 on my give-a-shit-o'meter, I don't believe it, and with the most aggressive NRA-ILA team in history (support them or not, they've pressured Washington a lot in the last 6 years) I don't think we'll see widescale gun bans. BUT- if we do, I think we're all poised (we being gun owners) to not put up with it and start screaming at our elected officials.

[DavieD55]

No, this is just more tin foil stuff, those two guys would never try to do that.

[Bailey Guns]

While i agree with your reply. I am troubled by the GOP's willingness to "reconsider" Rice as SOS. The whole Benghazi "cover up" if you will disturbs me. The potential, based on media "leaks" only while not a reliable source of the GOP to allow Rice the nomination shows me they are desperate and willing to concede just about anything to remain credible to the public at large.

I would say you may be correct when talking about the senate. The house has nothing to do with a Rice nomination for SoS. Not to mention the dems have enough votes in the senate to pass a gun ban anyway, regardless of how senate republicans vote. I'd say the chances of the house approving some sort of gun ban is pretty close to zero. And those house members have to worry about their jobs every two years...not like a 6-year senator.

[cfortune]

The CNN youtube video referenced in the article is from 09 as well.