We already have a system in place. Our system was never designed to be a socialist one. You are asking for a socialist system to take the place of our already capitali$t system. You are asking for a lot of problems with a very bad outcome. You do not understand what it is you're asking for.
Last edited by DavieD55; 12-27-2012 at 22:00.
You asked for evidence that the degree of socialist systems in America are broken, if you don't like the answer, don't ask the question. It's not that working a normal job will leave you impoverished that's the issue here, it's the fact that welfare pays better in most US states (including this one right here) than a regular, entry level, unskilled job, thus no one wants to take a pay cut to get off of welfare. Unskilled jobs, with no education or training, don't pay well, and most people I've seen on welfare are barely even qualified to ask "Do you want fries with that?" The problem is not the pay, it's the payee, so many lazy people out there. If I were a business owner, and some guy who had been on welfare for 7 years came to me looking for a job and demanded I pay him equal or more than welfare, and I felt he didn't fit the bill to earn that much to start, I'd offer him commensurate to what his labor was worth and allow him to work his way up. That is problem number one with the joblessness here, too many people feel they're work is worth more than it really is and don't want to start at the bottom and work their way up.
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"There is no news in the truth, and no truth in the news."
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Shooter, I called myself out for the typo. Try to read without your emotional disdain for me, it makes you want to jump on me for anything even if I did not say or do that.
Ronin the reason the payment was so high was because it was Hawaii. 36K there is poverty. I brought up the problem with wages because it is intertwined. If a person regardless of skill level can not live off an honest job then what do you want them to do? Die? No one has the right to have a business let alone the right to incorporate. If those business can not afford to pay a living wage then they should go out of business and I am sure another business will come along and fill the demand and do it just fine. Costco proves that the Wallmart idea is wrong.
You have to go back 3 levels because that far back you stopped engaging in any sort of relevant conversation. That is when you decided to use personal attacks and spurn using facts. So as a famous right wing politician said... "Blame yourself"